can I restore a vm from snapshot but the vm plan is no longer available ?

Cybertask 41

Hi,

The kali team announced that kali 2022.3 will no longer be available on market

The plan "Kali 2022.3" will no longer be available from Monday, 27 November 2023.

I already created my machine and installed custom tools and took snapshot.

can I use that snapshot to create another instances after that date ?

or what will happen to my snapshot ?

kindly, anyone has info about this case?

Best Regards

vipullag-MSFT 26,311 Reputation points

2023-09-04T06:15:54.96+00:00

Hello Cybertask

Any update on the issue?

Just checking in to see if you got a chance to see previous response.

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Cybertask 41 Reputation points

2023-09-04T09:20:50.4933333+00:00

I put comment, could you pls check it

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JimmySalian-2011 42,111 Reputation points

2023-08-27T09:51:59.37+00:00

Hi,

Usually the maintenance and updates are not released if the OS is end of lifecycle, you should be okay to carry out post tasks after deployment nothing will stop it as I said only impact will be security updates,patches etc. Also you can join Kali Discord team for discussing on this matter as they are quite active and should assist if you have any issues.

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Cybertask 41 Reputation points

2023-08-27T10:29:31.0166667+00:00

Hi,

thanks for reply,

but to clarify my question more, I don't mean maintenance and updates.

Im asking about snapshot I took from the a machine with plan no longer available in market.

can I use that snapshot to create another new machine ? Im afraid to get error says the machine plan is no longer available in market

any machine, not necessary to be kali linux.

vipullag-MSFT 26,311 Reputation points

2023-09-01T01:54:37.5+00:00

Hello Cybertask

Yes, you can still use the snapshot to create a new VM even if the plan is no longer available in the Azure Marketplace**.** When you create a new VM from a snapshot, you are essentially creating a copy of the original VM. The snapshot contains the disk image of the original VM, including the operating system and any installed software.

When you create a new VM from the snapshot, you will need to choose a different plan that is available in the Azure Marketplace or use a custom image. You can then attach the snapshot as a data disk to the new VM and use it to restore your data and applications.

Please note if you've taken a snapshot of a virtual machine that was created using a specific plan that is no longer available in the market, there might be limitations in using that snapshot to create new instances, depending on the virtualization platform or cloud service you are using.

The availability of a VM plan often includes specifications such as CPU, RAM, storage, and other resources. If the snapshot you took was based on a VM plan with specific resource allocations that are no longer available, you might run into issues if the new plan you choose has different resource specifications.

Before the plan becomes unavailable, if possible, try creating a new instance using your snapshot on a similar VM plan to verify if there are any compatibility issues. If it works without errors, you might be able to continue creating instances using your snapshot.

If the new plan differs significantly from the original one and the snapshot cannot be directly restored, you might need to manually recreate the VM and then import your data and configurations.

You can check with Azure support team once to get this clarified.

Hope this clarifies.

Cybertask 41 Reputation points

2023-09-04T08:48:24.95+00:00

Hi,

thanks for reply,

but, can you please clarify more for many cases.

My case is for a machine that does not required specific resource allocation, and can be created with any CPU type and size. and it is not Data disk. it is OS Disk.

This is my case:

Im security trainer, and created many machines for my trainees with customizations.

When I create any machine from the market, and customize it, then I take a snapshot and I deleted the original machine to save cost.

later, when i have training sessions, i restore those machines from snapshots for my trainees.

I do the restore and vm creation from snapshot using official Azure Java API. It request me to provide machine plan details like Publisher ID, Product ID, Plan ID.

That's Ok, it work fine as long as the plan not removed.

But my Question, if plan removed, it will give me plan no longer available! how to solve this issue even if i tried to restore from snapshot?

I dont want to create a new vm and again install tools as i have many and that cost me time and make azure not reliable for such cases
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vipullag-MSFT 26,311 Reputation points

2023-09-05T03:38:41.25+00:00
Hello Cybertask

We noticed that you rated an answer as not helpful.

Thanks for sharing more details. If the plan you used to create the original VM is no longer available in the Azure Marketplace, you will not be able to use that plan to create new VMs, even if you have a snapshot of the original VM.

However, there are a few options you can consider:

You can create a custom image of the original VM after you have installed all the necessary software and configurations. You can then use this custom image to create new VMs without having to install the software and configurations again. This will allow you to create new VMs even if the original plan is no longer available in the Azure Marketplace.

If the original plan is no longer available, you can choose a different plan that is available in the Azure Marketplace. You will need to make sure that the new plan meets your requirements and is compatible with the software and configurations you have installed on the original VM.

If you have a long-term need for VMs, you can consider using Azure Reserved Instances. This will allow you to reserve VMs for a period of one or three years at a discounted rate. This can help you save costs and ensure that you have access to the VMs you need for your training sessions.

I hope this helps.
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Cybertask 41 Reputation points

2023-09-12T06:05:39.64+00:00

Hi, thanks for more clarifications,

For No.1: we dont wish to go to this option as we have already created many 10s of different kali snapshots.

Regarding point No.2, To choose a different plan that is available in the Azure Marketplace:

Specifically the official vm image uploaded by Kali team,

The old plan:

-Publisher "kali-linux" -Product "kali" -Name "kali"

The new Plan:
-Publisher "kali-linux" -Product "kali" -Name "kali-2023-3"

I tried to use the new kali plan details to create a vm from a snapshot I previously created it using the old plan.

It gave me the following error, it does not work.

com.azure.core.management.exception.ManagementException: Long running operation is Failed or Cancelled.: Unable to deploy from the Marketplace image or a custom image sourced from Marketplace image. The part number in the purchase information for VM '/subscriptions/******/resourceGroups/rg-kali/providers/Microsoft.Compute/virtualMachines/vm-kali-900771' is not as expected. Beware that the Plan object's properties are case-sensitive. at com.azure.resourcemanager.resources.fluentcore.AzureServiceClient.getLroFinalResultOrError(AzureServiceClient.java:190) at reactor.core.publisher.MonoFlatMap$FlatMapMain.onNext(MonoFlatMap.java:125) at reactor.core.publisher.Operators$MonoSubscriber.complete(Operators.java:1839) at reactor.core.publisher.MonoTakeLastOne$TakeLastOneSubscriber.onComplete(MonoTakeLastOne.java:120)...

Addtionally, If i go to option No.1, to create custom image, I got the following error:

{"code":"DeploymentFailed","target":"/subscriptions/*****/resourceGroups/uae-kali-tmp/providers/Microsoft.Resources/deployments/Microsoft.Compute-GalleryImageVersion-20230912120735","message":"At least one resource deployment operation failed. Please list deployment operations for details. Please see https://aka.ms/arm-deployment-operations for usage details.","details":[{"code":"ResourceDeploymentFailure","target":"/subscriptions/******/resourceGroups/uae-kali-tmp/providers/Microsoft.Compute/galleries/kali_gallary/images/kali-image-plan/versions/1.0.0","message":"The resource write operation failed to complete successfully, because it reached terminal provisioning state 'Failed'."}]}

Also I got the following error when try to create custom image with my custom plan for snapshot of a vm from market (i.e kali):

{ "status": "Failed", "error": { "code": "Conflict", "message": "The resource with id '/subscriptions/*****/resourceGroups/RG-GENERAL-SNAPSHOTS/providers/Microsoft.Compute/snapshots/kali-2022-3-k' has a different plan ['{\"name\":\"kali\",\"publisher\":\"kali-linux\",\"product\":\"kali\",\"promotionCode\":null}'] than the parent gallery image plan ['null']." } }

It actually, conflict with original kali plan.

The Question, is there any trick or work around to continue using that snapshots without having to convert all of them to custom images?

Any option to create our custom plan and use that plan to create machines from that old snapshot?

vipullag-MSFT 26,311 Reputation points

2023-09-13T05:38:09.0566667+00:00

Hello Cybertask

Thanks for responding and sharing more details.

"Any option to create our custom plan and use that plan to create machines from that old snapshot?"
Support team will be able to check and help on this. I would recommend you to open a azure support case.

Yehoshua Gev 5 Reputation points

2023-10-23T11:35:24.2966667+00:00

Hi @Cybertask ,

We are facing a similar issue for a plan that was deleted.

Did you manage to overcome it?

Thanks.
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