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Hello John,
Based on the information you provided, it may be caused by the add-ins on the said applications. For us to further isolate the concern, we suggest that you run the apps through Safe Mode. Press Windows key + R > type excel /safe and winword /safe. You can also disable the add-ins. Kindly check out this article for the steps on how to disable the add-ins on both applications.
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