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How to alter the paragraph spacing in a custom Multilevel list?

Anonymous
2024-07-16T00:29:04+00:00

Hi,

I have set up some templates in my new business including a style for a Bullet list. I also created a Multilevel list for numbers. I want to adjust the before/after spacing on the Multilevel list to match the values on the Bullet list style. Of course you can select the ML list each time, click Paragraph, and adjust it from there but you have to do that each time you invoke the ML list. I want to click on the ML list once and have the style be what I want it to be.

I have tried the 'Define New Multilevel List' option to modify the existing ML list but it doesn't appear that you can change the Paragraph settings. I thought I'd solved it by linking the ML list to the Bullet style, but next time I tried making a bullet list with that style the bullets were now numbers Aaargghhhhh!!!!!

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  1. Stefan Blom 341.3K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2024-07-16T18:30:30+00:00

    Paragraph spacing will be determined by the paragraph style (or direct formatting) which is applied to list items. As Suzanne and Charles have pointed out, setting up a multilevel list with a unique paragraph style for each level of the list will be an efficient way to apply the desired spacing (as well as other paragraph & font settings).

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  2. Suzanne S Barnhill 277.7K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2024-07-16T00:36:41+00:00

    To create a truly custom multilevel list, you need to link each level to a different specific style. You can then modify the paragraph spacing of that style. To use this, you don't apply the list style, you apply the individual paragraph styles as needed.

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  3. Suzanne S Barnhill 277.7K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2024-07-16T11:51:38+00:00

    A better approach is to use built-in styles, modified as required. The procedure recommended at https://shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/numbering20072010.html shows using the heading styles, but you can also use the List Number or List Bullet series, supplemented as needed with custom styles (both List Number and List Bullet series are only five levels deep). Link each list level to the corresponding style, customize the numbering and indents as desired, then apply the defined numbering by applying that style.

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  4. Charles Kenyon 167.4K Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2024-07-16T00:56:25+00:00

    Multilevel numbering in Word is easy to mess up. It always has been.

    As Suzanne pointed out, you need to be attaching existing paragraph (not list) styles to your levels, a unique paragraph style for each level. Then change levels using those styles. You can change the spacing in those styles.

    Automatic Paragraph Numbering all starts with the Define New List Style Dialog.

    You use that to create and name a list style, within that dialog, when you format numbering you go to the Define New MultiLevel List Dialog. The key is to assign a separate existing paragraph style to each level of numbering. The styles can be built-in styles- or custom styles.

    If you use automatic paragraph numbering or bullets read Shauna Kelly's directions on numbering and bullets. Start with How to create numbered headings or outline numbering and her parallel page *How to control bullets*. For large documents you must follow these directions or you will lose your hair!
    (Mac version: https://www.brandwares.com/bestpractices/2016/06/outline-numbering-in-word-for-os-x/).

    For styles attached to numbering or bullets this way, you also control the left indents through the Define New MultiLevel List dialog not the Ruler, the Format Paragraph nor the Modify Style dialogs. See: Numbered Lists - Number Alignment by Suzanne Barnhill, MVP.

    Again, you first want the paragraph styles existing in your document without numbering.

    These can be built-in styles or custom styles or a mix of the two. You can, if you want, modify their formatting later. Then you go to the Define New List Style (Not Define New MultiLevel List! You will get to that dialog in the process, though.) Shauna Kelly's page uses the built-in heading styles. This can be convenient but the process works with any existing paragraph styles including your custom styles.

    This may seem a bit convoluted at first, but it really is not. Just follow the steps. Shauna Kelly's instructions use the built-in heading styles, but you can use any existing paragraph styles including your custom styles. There are, however advantages to using the built-in heading styles when you create a Table of Contents. Here are some more advantages: Why Use Word's Built-In Heading Styles? by Shauna Kelly Note, you can modify these built-in styles to look exactly the way you want.

    Even if what you want is a single-level list, you want to do this if you want the most control over your list.

    Videos on this

    https://youtu.be/niD6VXPvAyU?t=487

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EICWOeIhsR4

    The basic idea is that the numbering is set using the Define MultiLevel List dialog with each numbering level being attached to an existing paragraph style. Once you have this set up, you should not use the buttons for numbering in the Ribbon but rather apply the appropriate style for that level.

    You can save a document with this as a template for future documents if you want so you will not need to do this every time. However, once you’ve done this a few times it becomes second nature and not that difficult.

    See also this thread: Multi-Level Lists – see the answers, especially those from Suzanne Barnhill, MVP.

    If you are feeling adventurous, you could try this vba code:

    Multi-Level List on the Fly - vba code by Greg Maxey

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  5. Anonymous
    2024-07-16T00:50:12+00:00

    Thanks for the quick reply. So are you saying that I have to create a style first, separate from all other styles ie you can't use an existing style to modify a ML list?

    If I wanted to create a Multilevel list 5 levels deep, I would first have to create a separate style eg 'ML list level 1 style', set all the paragraph spacing etc, then create 'ML list level 2 style', etc etc etc. Then, I create a new Multilevel list, and link each level of that list to the associated style I have created?

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