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why three batteries in the pen of surface pro 3?

Anonymous
2014-05-31T11:26:10+00:00

why three batteries in the pen of surface pro 3?

Is one for Bluetooth? Which one? AAAA or watch batteries?

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-06-21T18:22:02+00:00

    Greetings,

          The N-Trig pens usually take 1 AAAA battery to power the sensor board and erase & right click buttons in the pen. The pens do not need to be paired on Bluetooth to operate for pointing and drawing and using the lower buttons. Microsoft has taken this pen and added a simple Bluetooth beacon transmitter in the cap to act like a wake on LAN message that is custom tweaked to launch Onenote or the login screen. The purple button on the top is the Bluetooth device portion of the pen.

         I bought a Surface Pro 3 today and the store indicated, as far as they knew, only the single AAAA battery was replaceable. That did not seem logical to me so I took the pen back to the workshop for some closer examination. All 3 batteries are in fact safely replaceable, there are two #319 watch batteries inside the cap.

        The AAAA will need to be replaced more often than the watch batteries, it should last a long time. It is changed like you would expect to change the ink in a pen. The top screws off where the metal meets the plastic. Positive side towards the writing tip side.

        The two #319 watch batteries power the Bluetooth beacon and should not need changing for a couple years unless you are holding the button down all the time. The batteries will go bad from natural decay before you consume their charge in some cases. Should you need to replace the batteries here is how: You will only need a skinny Phillips screwdriver. Unscrew the pen top like you are replacing the AAAA. Inside the cap is a spring that holds the AAAA down, pull it out and you will see what looks like a Phillips screw head. Its not really a screw but is a threaded metal insert inside the cap. It has very  finely machined threads so be careful when you put it back together not to cross thread it or over-tighten it. It's well made so you don't need a lot of force to tighten it securely. The watch batteries are stacked inside the insert. #319 batteries are tiny; imagine 3 grains of rice together. The Phillips-head insert is kind of like a cup and its easier to put the batteries in the cup flat-side up instead of the pen-cap/top when re-assembling. Test the purple Onenote button before putting the rest of the pen back together, it does not need the AAAA for the one note trick. Putting the spring back in the pen cap a little tedious because its so small but it just shoves in there, its oversized so it stays in tight once fully seated straight.

    I hope this helps clear up some confusion I have seen around about the digital pens batteries.

    PS This device rocks so far.

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-06-01T00:22:15+00:00

    Hi TKsurface,

    Thank you for reaching out and taking the time to clear out this doubt with the Microsoft Community! We appreciate your interest! We too are very excited about the upcoming Surface Pro 3!

    In this case, all current available information about the Surface Pro 3 and its accessories can be found in our Surface Blog, our News Center and the Surface website.

    We hope you find what you are looking for!

    If you have any other questions don’t hesitate to ask! We are always here to help!

    Best Wishes,

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-06-01T16:49:40+00:00

    why three batteries in the pen of surface pro 3?

    Is one for Bluetooth? Which one? AAAA or watch batteries?

    The pen is made by N-Trig

    You can find a lot of info about it here (it's Spanish so you may need some help of Google translator)

    http://wintablet.info/2014/05/n-trig-duosense2-como-funciona/    (Spanish)

    It's not clear which battery will be used for BT. The available information talks about just one battery and the second battery was added for the SP3 I believe.

    http://www.n-trig.com/Content.aspx?Page=DuoSenseActivePen  (English)

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-09-08T05:03:21+00:00

    Your answer is giving me hope so if I may clarify. Only the AAAA battery needs to be replaced for the pen to be functional?

    I plan on using my Surface Pro 3 for drawing and not so much on using OneNote. AAAA batteries are easier to find than 319 batteries from where I live. I find it already a hassle looking for AAAA batteries and luckily a few stores sell them, and 319 batteries are pretty much impossible to find. I don't like online shopping but if I had to, I would've had to buy the 319 online. :(

    SO PLEASE CONFIRM that my understanding is correct: only the AAAA battery needs to be replaced for it to function as a pen. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

    That is correct. The #319s are just for the purple button and is also the BT paired device. The pen tip and it's 2 buttons are powered by the AAAA and is not a paired BT device. The pen works with the #319s removed sans BT device (the purple button). If you have no BT devices or desire to use any you can technically turn off your SP3 BT transmitter all together and save an extra (likely infinitesimal) sip of system battery too. It's just a BT beacon gimmick device, I like it but wish it could do more; like choose the app shortcut. The pen is great though IMHO. I think it's an undervalued device; it's a mouse pointer as well as a pen. I had a Samsung series 7 slate (The one they revealed win8 on) and love it. The Wacom was a good pen but did have issues at the edges being a fully passive device. The new pen feels more substantial, consistent, and comfortable for me. I can't tell the difference for the pressure sensitivity for my usage between either one. Those #319s should last a long time and you CAN live without them if you don't need the purple button. Enjoy!

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  2. Anonymous
    2014-05-31T13:45:44+00:00

    I am not for sure but I think that Pen is made by JOT ADDONIS.  Go to their web site and you will be able to read all the details of what that pen does and how it works.

    Web site: http://www.adonit.net

    As you will see, the Pen is only available for the iPad/iOS machines but I do believe that Microsoft may have gotten with them to get the driver set and build a built in utility for it so that it can work.

    No digitizer!

    It does need those batteries for both connection and function.

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