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Feedback on Surface books (worst pc ever ?)

Anonymous
2021-11-05T19:07:06+00:00

Hello everyone,

This is feedback on my experience having had 4 distinct surface book 2 13" over the last 4 years. I bought 1 and the 3 others were replacement ones.

To introduce myself and give a bit of context, I am a STEM student in a top 20 university in the world and I essentially do Mechanical engineering and Data Science. Therefore I have all the time in my bag and run big simulations on it.

Therefore, 4 years ago, I took the surface book 2 for its incredible specs and also its ability to take notes in tablet mode.

  • 1st surface book, screen battery not detected anymore
  • 2nd surface book, tablet frame expanded creating a gap of around 3mm all around because of the different expansion coefficient of the material
  • 3rd surface book, screen expanded then cracked in the middle after heating up during a simulation
  • 4th surface book, screen expanded, battery not detected

I would like to precise that Microsoft has always replaced all the broken surface books with a higher version and the support service is extremely nice and helpful. Still, I will present what are the major design and conception flaws of this product in my opinion:

  • Not putting a fan in the screen when you have an i7 running in it. Indeed I do deep learning / CATIA / Abaqus simulations/photo editing and therefore it heats up. The main issue is the fact that the metal frame expands under the heat but not the glass. Therefore when it cools down, a gap starts to appear and it keeps getting bigger every time the laptop heats up. Also, the battery in the screen seems to suffer a lot from it as its durability decreases extremely quickly before not even being detected anymore.
  • The tablet battery life (with an i7 and 16Go of ram) is a maximum of 1h30 with only OneNote. You cannot use it without the charger. When you use it with the charger, the tablet heats up and the pen starts lagging making it completely useless.
  • Having a proprietary port on the tablet and only one USB-C on the dock. This means that you cannot use your tablet with a beamer or peripheral (even Apple does it). And only 1 USB-C makes your dongle heat up super quickly when plugging in 2 screens for example (or you can have a 200$, super heavy, surface dock at all times with you).
  • The fans of the dock blow onto the screen / within the hinge. Therefore, if you "reverse" the screen and use, let's say photoshop with your pencil", the hot air blows into the closed space between the tablet and the keyboard. Therefore hot air gets trapped and best of all: the processor is right there in the middle. Therefore Adobe or any creative software cannot be used in "closed reverse mode".
  • The battery life, I have the max specs but still, with 75% of brightness, do not expect more than 5-6h of battery.
  • The charger/proprietary port, Apple and Dell use USB type C, Microsoft made a laptop thick as a brick with their own charger...

What I find extremely shocking is that the surface book 3 has exactly the same design issues which will inevitably lead to the same failures.

Maybe I am the only unlucky person to whom all of this happened but it happened too many times to be isolated.

Also for the price it cost, I would not recommend buying a surface book as it can only be used reliably as a laptop and in this range, they are way better / reliable competitors.

In case you were wondering, I asked Microsoft for a refund / have a surface laptop instead, they always refused and sent me back another surface book that suffered from the (more or less) same issues.

Tell me if the same happened to you or if I am only unlucky ;)

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  1. btbt 11,826 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2021-11-05T19:37:16+00:00

    The dGPU shouldn't be in use if the laptop is "closed". This will severely underclock the dGPU to prevent overheat.

    I haven't had an issue with the tablet battery expanding. In fact, mine remained strong and it was my base battery that died.

    Also, the clipboard is the computer. You say don't put a fan there, but that's where the processor is... And an i7 needs a fan!

    There's a reason why Microsoft calls the top part a clipboard and not a tablet. The Surface Book is not designed to be a Surface Pro with a detachable graphics. Everything crammed into the Surface Book doesn't leave much room for battery. Hence the "clipboard" moniker. It is not designed for long periods of use on its own.

    Anyway, it seems that the Surface Book line has now ended and is replaced with the Surface Laptop Studio which addresses some your concerns. This model IS designed to be used "closed" and includes two Type-C ports that are also Thunderbolt 4 ports for more bandwidth for external connections for example.

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  2. btbt 11,826 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2021-11-06T00:06:37+00:00

    I did indeed read your fan comment backwards, and I could have sworn there was a fan in the clipboard. However, after looking at teardowns and third-party sites with specifications, it appears only the 15 inch Core i7 models had a fan in the clipboard. Today I learned!

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  3. Anonymous
    2021-11-05T19:54:52+00:00

    Hey,

    Thank you for your answer.

    What I say is: Not putting a fan in the "clipboard" /tablet is a major flaw, not the other way round as you seemed to have understood it.

    Also, in my case, the battery did not expand but stopped being detected.

    It is the metallic frame that expanded leading to a gap between the edge of the glass and the metallic frame.

    As you say, now it's over but I think it is a pity because some ideas were actually good.

    Best,

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