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Discussion on PCIe NVMe SSD Layouts with Win11 Insider Builds and Secondary Drives - Update

Johnny55 4,710 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
2021-08-11T21:42:44+00:00

Moved from https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/all/co-release-build-22000120-out-to-dev-beta-channel/12041a36-0d1f-4176-8c75-d4c377d0d0eb as we were beginning to go OT with build 22000.120.

@CK, please move the last couple of posts from link to this thread. Not sure if you can put them in front of what was going to be my reply. Was suggesting to move already prior to be locked and posted. Thanks. Hope this is good.

Hi fg,

Yes you are correct not keeping up to date on hardware. Have never used a PCIe NVMe SSD. I put one in the Desktop I'm building so I may be asking you for guidance :-) It's going to be a learning experience. As well as figuring out the 10 RGB fans, 6 120mm for air intake front, front side, 4 for exhaust top with cooler and rear. Hate the push and pull terms. lol.

Currently only have 2 devices with UEFI. one new laptop (only compliant W11 device) and original Surface Pro. This will be first Desktop with UEFI. Got lot of catching up to do so not sure with NVMe yet. As mentioned above, that was all old school.

Still waiting for a 3060/70 video card, possibly end of month, early Sept. They keep extending dates of arrival. Radians are starting to show up, no Nvidia's yet except for the odd 3090. Not going to pay between $2K-3K for 3080/90 as not a gamer. Budgeting around $1K+ for video, already close to $3K invested. Even the 64GB of Ram has RGB.

Figured I would start off bare, get that running, then add the 4TB, 6TB HDD's and use current bootable 1T SSD for the vm's rather than HDD. That is the plan anyhow. Suppose I should thank MS for finally getting me to upgrade for W11. Well over 10yrs on an overclocked i7 2600. Solid chip.

Appreciate your partition specs, helps me understand. Thanks. Any suggestions will always be appreciated. Suspect we may have to move this to another thread. Starting to go OT. New build possibly tomorrow?

Regards,

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  1. BryceSor 4,955 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2021-08-13T18:36:30+00:00

    My h-y runs W11 on 970EVO SSD and I also have over-provisioning enabled, Don told me when I bought this drive to enable it and here's a white paper about it.

    My motherboard doesn't have the correct slot, so I use it through an adapter at reduced speed, but it works without errors.

    S190311-SAMSUNG-Memory-Over-Provisioning-White-paper.pdf

    Enjoy your weekend Johnny and when my mate finishes his trike which he is building himself I will send the pictures but so far it is taking 4years

    Scary how years fly by just be circling to Sun 😃

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  2. Anonymous
    2021-08-13T16:50:01+00:00

    The 11th Gen Processor was a much better choice for the 590 motherboard.. I don't remember which one you got but maybe I will assume you got one without the built-in video?

    Here is a benchmark on the 980 Pro.from my ASUS Z590 system. Remember, Samsung does not make a driver for that drive so don't try to install one of theirs.

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  3. Anonymous
    2021-08-13T07:29:59+00:00

    Hi Johnny,

    Congratulation for your new rig and happy computing.

    Although you didn't ask for general help but expert help, I wanted to share my humble experiences with you on the installation and activation of PCIe NVMe SSD. The following images are from my Asus motherboard. They may help you or not.

    I installed a PCIe NVMe SSD more than two years ago. My motherboard has only one M.2 slot and it accepts both PCIe and SATA M.2 cards.

    The following Asus BIOS settings refer to UEFI and legacy installations together.

    Advanced > Onboard Devices Configuration page.

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    Here I enable M.2 PCIe mode.

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    At the Boot page of BIOS, I open CSM settings page.

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    Here I give UEFI driver first priority for PCIe expansion devices. I set Boot Device Control to UEFI and Legacy OPROM because I run both UEFI and legacy OS together, one at a time of course. And Boot from Storage Devices is assigned to Legacy OPROM first.

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    That's it for my 6-year old motherboard.

    Hope this gives you some hint.

    Again happy computing. I'd like to hear your initial impressions with it.

    Regards

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  4. Anonymous
    2021-08-12T17:30:17+00:00

    The Samsung drive is a PCIe M.2 NVMe drive. There are PCIe M.2 SATA drives so you have to be careful..

    If you have it connected to the first M.2 slot, then it is in a PCIe 4 slot. If you had the Samsung 980 you would get twice the transfer speeds. This slot is also on the Processor where the other two are on the Chipset..

    The info you were given was not completely accurate. The 11th Gen processor has more lanes than the 10th Gen so you support more devices. The speed of an NVMe drive is based on how many lanes it uses, which is what the PCIe 3 x4 or PCIe 4 x4. If it was a PCIe 4 x2 then it would be half the speed of the x4 version..

    Let us know how it goes and make sure to boot the install media as UEFI and not Legacy..

    Since you have the newer Chipset, you may be able to use the install media we discussed earlier where you just need a 16 GB USB drive converted to GPT and formatted using NTFS. Then just copy over the Install files from the mounted .iso, just a reminder .. not required.

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  5. Dumba_M3 7,200 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2021-08-11T21:46:54+00:00

    Splitting merging and then splitting and merging back the bystanders might be a little complicated.

    But the discussion you would like to make readers aware of, so they know what you are on about, started with this post:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/message/3d178470-5b58-4623-a8cd-dcf31713c2e0?threadId=12041a36-0d1f-4176-8c75-d4c377d0d0eb

    The interested reader might start there and follow up here.

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