Hey Guys I just switched to this thread it's so much better.
"How do I downgrade to Windows XP? – Windows 8 Sucks bad" sucks. Worst thread to read.
Great tips on this thread. Be sure to check it out!
-Alex
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**PLEASE NOTE **
This is posted just to have a place to discuss ways to modify the look/feel and such of Windows 8.1. It is not to complain about the way things are or c/should be: please do that elsewhere if you feel the need. Let's keep this as a discussion to direct people to who want to know methods of arranging Windows 8.1 features, functions and layouts that makes them more comfortable/gives them back familiarity while they choose whether or not to learn the new stuff included in Windows 8.1.
Feel free to add the tips/tricks you have discovered in modifying Windows 8.1 for yourself of others that made them more comfortable using it.
Try to not be the one that starts some flamewar because of a decision that it would be 'cute' ('smart', etc.) to add, "I just switched to ____" or "____ sucks" or any other derogatory statement instead of something constructive for those looking for assistance.
**PLEASE NOTE **
Lots of complaints out there about the way Windows 8.1 looks and feels. Most of it usually centers around the "in your face" start menu screen or the gestures that seem to get in some percentage of people's ways because of mannerisms they have picked up over the years, etc. The good thing about Windows 8.1 is that there are PLENTY of choices you can utilize to easily return to something more familiar until you can adjust better to some of the new ways of doing things.
Now I know some people may have seen/used the utilities that bring back the Windows XP-7 Start Button Menu amongst other things - and although you can install a third party utility to give you the functionality of the "Start Button Menu" back - it may or may not be something you need to do. I suggest *against* it, but as I know some will still want it - there are many utilities that add back the "Start Button Menu" as well as help one adjust other settings some find disconcerting in Windows 8.1. Here's a good list of some such utilities ...
http://www.eightforums.com/customization/12971-list-start-menu-replacements-windows-8-a.html
... to get you started. Some cost, some are free, etc.
However, I personally haven't seen the need for such a utility. Nor have many people I have upgraded to Windows 8/8.1. Many have found that they seldom utilized the "Start Button Menu" and thus they in-turn seldom utilize the "Start Screen Menu" in the same manner. I highly suggest you try the few tips here to get you started with Windows 8.1 as it will be better for you in the long run and better for your overall experience, in my opinion.
The desktop mode is still basically the same other than no 'start button menu' and a few missing "prettifications" like Aero Glass. The search is still generally the same as as Vista/7. Some interactions such as managing wireless network profiles, accessing certain "power-user" level features and the likes may be a bit different dependent on how you utilized Vista/7, but not really a show-stopper. It is understandable that all the new stuff presented at once can be overwhelming - but hopefully this discussion can help with that - getting you back to something more familiar.
Truthfully - making Windows 8.1 work in a manner that allows you to learn the new stuff at your own pace (if at all) could be here...
Do you think that looks difficult/complex and/or looks like it will take a long time? It isn't and it won't. Below is some step-by-step instruction as well as tips later on to assist you along this simple journey and get you using your computer and learning the newer features and methods at your own pace. Essentially the numbered sections below explain in more detail the numbered sections above.
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Many people didn't even know you could use Windows 8.1 with a non-Microsoft Live account - but you can, some might even say you should, but no need to digress. Make the switch to/back to a local account:
[ Why the web page link? Why re-invent the wheel?... The instructions are there, straight-forward and fairly simplistic. ]
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Booting to the desktop is probably the most immediate gratification/relief that someone who is just irritated/confused or otherwise disjointed by the Windows 8.1 Start Screen Menu. This does not make it go away nor does it bring back a start button menu, etc.
+D to get there.
) the box for "When I sign in or close all apps on a screen, go to the desktop instead of Start".
Reboot. Notice the difference? Take a deep breath, things are getting more familiar already!
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Put some shortcuts on the desktop itself to the applications you installed/use often or pin them to the taskbar. You've likely done both of these things before in Windows Vista/7. Some of the tips below are generalized. You can pick and choose as you like from them (if at all) to better manage your desktop environment. Truthfully - you could use these even if you were using Windows XP, Vista, 7, etc. in many cases.
I personally like to make my taskbar twice as tall as normal and use the Internet Explorer Quick Launch toolbar as it lets me put more in a smaller space. I've used this since Windows XP, at least. Of course, I use 24" and up monitors for my system, so the double-height taskbar may not be something good for you.
For more information on the taskbar for Windows 8, check this out:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/use-the-taskbar
Things I have found useful over the years and still in Windows 8.1 - and found on the web page linked above are:
Resizing the taskbar height is just making sure it is not locked and clicking/dragging in the right place.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/resize-taskbar#1TC=windows-7
[ Yes - Windows 7 link because the methodology is still the same for the task at hand. As it was in Windows XP and Vista as well. ]
Adding the IE quicklaunch toolbar is easy if you want to do it, but there are nuances ('Showing Text', 'Showing Titles', moving to the left or right side, etc.) so again I am deferring to a web link that has more space and better images. While this particular link is for Windows 8 - the same instructions work for Windows Vista, 7 and 8.1.
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5069-quick-launch-add-taskbar-windows-8-a.html
Now I don't personally miss the "Start Button" or "Start Orb" menu system, but some people swear by it - although I have found many can live without it once they have the links either on the desktop, taskbar or in the quicklaunch toolbar from above. You could use one of the many utilities already mentioned, but I just don't think there is a need.
Here is how to create a 'library' (an ability around since Vista, at least) that contains the folders (2 of them) that make up the content of the "Start Button/Start Orb menu": simply the list of applications and shortcuts that almost every application you install will likely still put there for a while to come. This is probably the most complicated thing you might do to bring back some part of the older version of Windows, and truthfully, it's more lengthy in than actually complicated in my opinion.
libraries
and press ENTER. That should bring up the Windows Explorer window in "Libraries" view. 2. At the top find "New Item" and click on it to drop the choices down and choose "Library". You can name it what you want, I kept it simple and called it "Start Menu". 3. Now right-click on the new library you just created (should see it alongside the "Documents", "Music", "Pictures" and "Videos" libraries on the lower right part of the window you opened) and choose "Properties" from the menu that comes up. This is where you can add the multiple folders that this library will contain. 4. Click on the "Add..." button. 5. In the top address bar type in:
%appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Press Enter. 6. At the bottom-right part of the window, click on the "Include folder" button. 7. Click on the "Add..." button. 8. In the top address bar type in:
%programdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Press Enter. 9. At the bottom-right part of the window, click on the "Include folder" button. 10. Click OK.
Now you have a Library that contains the two main lists of programs the old Start Button/Start Orb menu used to populate its list. You can now create a pseudo and simplified version of that Start Button menu list of installed programs on your taskbar if you like. Here's how:
libraries
... and press enter. You should see the list of libraries, one of which is the one you created above. 3. Double-click on the one you created from before and then click on "Select Folder" at the bottom right section of the window.
Now you have a taskbar toolbar that has the text from the name of the Library and possibly two folder icons in it. If you resize that/move it around per the instructions from the "quicklaunch Toolbar" from above, it can look like a button menu-system. Later I will have a picture of this.
I know that was a lot of information - but again - you don't have to use it all, only the parts you like/want to use. Also, this part [(3)] essentially should work wind Windows Vista or 7 as well. Mostly work in Windows XP even.
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METHOD 1: Using the taskbar Properties
The 1st checkbox (being empty) will disable the Charms and the 2nd checkbox (being empty) will disable App Switch list. Apply the changes and it'll immediately disable those hot corners in Windows 8.1.
METHOD 2: Using PC Settings
You can also disable hot corners using PC Settings (via the modern UI Control Panel).
Source: http://www.askvg.com/how-to-disable-hot-corners-charms-bar-and-app-switch-list-in-windows-8-1/ via Hamiltonboy78
** Note - that only disables access to the charms from the upper corner. If your problem is it appears at all/when you move your mouse to the lower right corner - it's a registry value change...
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ImmersiveShell\EdgeUI]
"DisableCharmsHint"=dword:00000001 3. From the Notepad menu, choose "File" --> "Save As". 4. Choose the "Desktop" from the left pane. 5. Change the "Save as type" and the bottom to "All Files (*.*)". 6. For a File Name type:
DisableCharms.reg 7. Click on "Save". 8. Close the notepad application. 9. Locate the file (DisableCharms.reg) on your desktop and double-click it. 10. Answer in the affirmative to all questions.
Now the upper and lower right corners are inactive for the charms.
You can still open the charms by going to the lower/upper right corner with the pointer and dragging straight up/down. It's just a little more effort than hitting that corner was.
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The last thing I suggest is installing and using the same applications you used before. Sounds simple because... it is. It's an important tip, though.
If you used and liked Mozilla Thunderbird or Windows Live Mail 2012 before - install and use them now. If you used Skype - download and install the desktop edition for Windows. If you have always used Adobe Reader for PDFs, download and install it now. Google Chrome? Mozilla Firefox? Google Earth? Paint.NET? OpenOffice or LibreOffice? Microsoft Office? iTunes? VLC media player? The list goes on and on.
This is still Microsoft Windows - don't start treating it like a tablet because one screen and some gesture capabilities give you that OPTION now.
That could get you to a place where you are comfortable using Windows 8.1 without *ANY* third party applications, fancy registry hacks or anything other than, really, stuff native to WIndows 8.1 and stuff, in some cases, you could have done in Windows Vista/Windows 7.
Here's a few random tips
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In case anyone was curious what a Windows 8.1 system with the above modifications could look like (sans any fancy background image) - here it is:
All Windows 8.1 and no third party applications to change the look or feel; all built-in options, many of which were there in Windows Vista and Windows 7 as well.
The home made "Start Button Menu" looks like this...
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Hope that helps someone!
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Hey Guys I just switched to this thread it's so much better.
"How do I downgrade to Windows XP? – Windows 8 Sucks bad" sucks. Worst thread to read.
Great tips on this thread. Be sure to check it out!
-Alex
Ah, the beauty of any Windows version - several ways to do the same thing. Drives people nuts. :D Love it.
To anyone that might be having trouble with the physical power button on the computer: look for power options in control panel. Or, when you get to "system and security", there is a blue link labeled "change what the power buttons do." that is more direct.
bloated metro apps that came with the PC that you are never going to use can be removed very easily: just right-click their tile and select "uninstall".
BTW: Windows 8.1 preview never allowed a tester to make a local account during setup. Microsoft announced that a user would be able to make a local account in the final release, but, for some reason, they never got around to making it that way.
Hi SS – that is a pretty good rundown of getting 8.1 to work on the desktop. As we know from other threads, people tend to customize their desktops to suit their own requirements, or to add features they hear about that they think are useful. I would add/expand on a few of your ideas.
While your approach to your start library is interesting, I think an equally good approach is to (i) Pin your key programs (Word, Acrobat, Firefox etc or whatever you use) to the taskbar, and pin often used files to each program, (ii) create a desktop toolbar, from which all other programs run, (iii) create a QuickLaunch toolbar from which all useful functions and features run and (iv) place shutdown icons on the taskbar (see below).
Place shutdown icons on the taskbar. This allows you to shutdown or restart with one click.
“shutdown /r /t 0″ in the location field.
The QuickLaunch toolbar is particularly useful – you can put what ever you want in it. Mine is below:
The beauty of QuickLaunch used like this, is that it can be copied to a new hard-drive or computer to re-establish all functions. It is best to store it in your data partition (if you have one) so that it is backed up regularly. Or back it up out of the Internet Explorer folder in Users.
Thank you, Shenan. This has been the far most comprehensive and helpful post I've seen so far. Saved it - just in case. :)
For all my b*tching and moaning about Win8, I have from the beginning been determined to not make this OS look like anything else old I'm familiar with, and muddle my way through it as is without downloading anything third party at all. I still don't like it but I've had some free time to futz around with it and while I admit I'm still irritated with it, I have figured out on my own how to make some of the very changes you suggest above to make life a little easier for me, without watching a single tutorial or reading any instructions. Got rid of most of the tiles, don't even boot to Classic, just made me a nice big tile for it on Metro and go straight there. Weather and a select few live tiles can be handy. I've even found a few occasions where touchscreen can be handy (though I still hate fingerprints on my screen). I came straight to Win8 after mostly using only XP since whenever that came out, and it really freaked me out - but so far there has been no computer I couldn't somehow fix / adapt - yet - in over twenty years.
Cheers!