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Win10 Defender and Spybot 2.4

Anonymous
2015-08-09T18:31:14+00:00

Upgraded to Win10 Enterprise and Spybot 2.4 free edition (without Antivirus).

Win8.1 Defender worked with SpyBot, but in Win10 Defender is disabled and now I get reminder notification to turn on virus protection which I do not have (Win10 seems to think I have virus protection installed?).

Removing Spybot restores Defender functionality, but I want both protecting system.

When will Win10 Defender and Spybot work together?

BTW - Does Windows Version choices below need to be updated to include Win10, or is there a different forum for asking this type of question?

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-08-10T02:03:46+00:00

    Spybot appears to have 3 services running.  If you stop the "Spybot-S&D 2 Security Center Service" it allows Defender to work along with the Spybot-S&D 2 Scanner Service.

    Is there any consequences to setting the Spybot Security Center Service to Manual instead of Automatic start until either safer-networking or Microsoft fixes this problem?

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-08-11T04:23:48+00:00

    I have used both products for years, and have found that both of these products have matured over time.

    I've found no significant issues in running both since ~Win7, albeit I'm certain there is redundancy, and find that both products still have strengths and weaknesses.

    By running both products, I find very few occasions that I need to go looking for other cleaning utilities to keep my malware PC performance in check (via SpyBot), and most viruses away (via Defender).

    Personally I don't get involved in this type of finger pointing - I really could care less who thinks they are right since both companies are making their customers uncomfortable, which will make them look for other solutions.  What I do feel is important is for each provider to take responsibility to provide adequate information on what is causing the phenomenon (this forum helps), and options on what to do about it. 

    In this case I feel both products are contributing to an easily solvable problem... Microsoft had no problem with S&D running prior to Win10, but now after Win10 upgrade the user community is instantly confused why they are getting Microsoft defender messages that they never had before, and Microsoft's error messaging doesn't help the user understand what is causing the message, or what options to take to do something about it.  I think it a bit ironic that the Defender message basically tells the user to go get a different virus protection program.

    In looking at the S&D options, I'd think that most users would want to have S&D "integration into the systems Windows Security Center" as that type of tight integration seems like the right choice, but that choice currently deactivates Defender. 

    It does make sense to me that if the S&D virus protection feature was installed that I would want to deactivate Defender since then I would be running 2 virus and malware protection programs, and that seems like 1 too many.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-08-09T20:08:21+00:00

    Yes, the forum selection box for the operating system here in the Virus and Malware topic needs to be updated. Not sure why this was missed for the Windows 10 release. I expect we'll see it corrected later this month. They typically make forum changes monthly.

    The Spybot real time protection conflicts with Defender, so you can't have both active. It may not be full antivirus, but Spybot has included real time protection for some time now.

    -steve

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  4. Rob Koch 25,875 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2015-08-10T03:35:14+00:00

    There is a way to configure Spybot S&D so it doesn't disable Defender.

    However, you are asking these questions in the wrong place, since this isn't a Windows Defender issue, it's an issue with Spybot S&D configuration.  Their forums can be found at the following:

    https://forums.spybot.info/

    Rob

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-08-10T03:26:56+00:00

    Although I suspect that neither Safer or Microsoft will change anything to allow both products to co-exist, I suspect that disabling (setting to manual) is a reasonable solution. The concept is that you are preventing the service from interfering with Defender.

    -steve

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