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Is it at all possible to transfer Groove music to an mp3 player so that I am able to listen to the music while exercising

Anonymous
2017-04-06T00:53:13+00:00

Is it at all possible to transfer MS Groove downloads to an MP3 player, such as an IPod touch -- so that I am able to listen to the music while exercising.  I'm assuming that in order to play MS Groove files on Mp3 players, one must possess the knowledge to decrypt the DRM encrypted/protected MS Groove music.

Note that several Circuit Courts of Appeal are currently considering this very matter as I write.  And, several appellate courts have already held that under certain circumstances the decryption of encrypted forms of media is legal under certain circumstances.   In fact, I'd be more than happy citing such cases for some of the so-called "Windows Insiders" who are functioning under an absolute misapprehension that the circumvention of DRM-protected music is necessarily unlawful.

Moreover, some of these same "Insiders' have claimed that MS Groove is a rental service.  First, Microsoft has never referred to or defined MS Groove as a rental service.  Even if MS Groove is a rental service, this fact is entirely irrelevant to whether MS Groove music can be transferred and played on an MP3 player.

So, and in sum, if anyone can point me to any source of information that would allow me to circumvent the DRM protections of MS Groove music, such that I can listen to such music using my MP3 player, I'd greatly appreciate such help/information.

And last, but not least, let me state once again as straightforwardly as possible, it is simply not necessarily the case that the circumvention of DRM protected MS Groove music is necessarily unlawful.  First, and based upon the holdings of several federal courts, it would appear that the act of circumventing MS Groove DRM-protected music would be entirely lawful, when said circumvention is used strictly for the purpose of permitting one to listen to MS Groove music on an MP3 player.  

Lastly, when the sole purpose of circumventing MS Groove DRM-protected music is merely to make it possible for an individuals to listen to Groove music on their MP3 players, I'd suspect that the Circuit Courts of Appeals are likely come down on my side.

So, if anyone can possibly educate me as to the process of circumventing Microsoft's DRM-protected Groove music, I'd greatly appreciate such.

And as far as I am concerned, let the so-called "Windows Insiders" who will predictably scorn me for publishing this post complain all they want.

Thanks in advance for any assistance I am likely to receive for the sole purpose of making it possible for me to listen to MS Groove music via my MP3 player while exercising.

thanks again -- Joe

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-04-06T19:01:05+00:00

    First, do not discuss the circumventing of DRM protections on these forums as it is against the terms of use.

    The Groove Music Pass is a subscription service, if you let your pass expire, the songs no longer work.  This is why some people refer to it as a music rental service.  The songs you download through the Music Pass are protected .wma files, not .mp3 files. 

    If you're purchasing the music from the store, you'll receive the .mp3 file of the track.

    There's a Groove Music app available for iOS devices, such as the iPod Touch you refer to.

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-04-06T22:18:29+00:00

    First, do not discuss the circumventing of DRM protections on these forums as it is against the terms of use.

    The Groove Music Pass is a subscription service, if you let your pass expire, the songs no longer work.  This is why some people refer to it as a music rental service.  The songs you download through the Music Pass are protected .wma files, not .mp3 files. 

    If you're purchasing the music from the store, you'll receive the .mp3 file of the track.

    There's a Groove Music app available for iOS devices, such as the iPod Touch you refer to. 

    You obviously failed to read my post, despite your decision to offer your unsolicited comments.  And although tempting, I'll refrain from reiterating my comments/statements/questions again.  

    Based upon the holdings of several federal courts, I now believe that I have the right to circumvent MS Groove DRM-protected files,solely to make it possible for me to listen to such music on my MP3 player in an effort to enhance the "workout experience."

    Let me clarify one matter, however:  I stated in my first post that I own an iPod touch; I meant to say that I own an iPod shuffle. And to the best of my knowledge and understanding, MS has yet to make it possible for anyone to listen to MS Groove DRM-protected music on an iPod shuffle MP3 player. 

    Moreover, MS has absolutely no business deciding which devices are compatible with MS Groove music; such smacks of illegality. 

    I'd suggest that before criticizing my comments again, it would be best for you to perform the necessary legal research.  As things currently stand, your response to my post is without any merit.

    Lastly, let me educate you with respect to the following matter.  In your first paragraph you stated that I have no right to post my views about the process of circumventing DRM protections.   This comment of yours is absolutely wrong.  We are all entitled to express our opinions regarding the circumvention of DRM protections.

    MS may rightfully disallow individuals from discussing the actual techniques used to circumvent DRM protections. But that's it. MS cannot legally prevent individuals from sharing their views with respect to circumvention.  (Have you ever heard of the First Amendment?)

    I will end by suggesting that before you decide to make other inane comments on topics about which you know nothing, you perform the necessary legal research.  Such is a necessity if you are to make meaningful comments about this post in the future.

    Joe Teitelman

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