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Migrating or cloning Windows 7 64bit to new SSD results in SSD not booting?

Anonymous
2017-02-07T17:45:20+00:00

Hi

I am trying to migrate or clone my old system hard drive on to a brand new Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD but after the cloning process the SSD will not boot or if it does get to the desktop it is extremely slow and the mouse and keyboard do not work and I am unable to open any programs.

I have also tried to do the same onto a Brand New Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB SSD just in case the 250 one was too small or faulty but experienced exactly the same results.

The cloning software I have tried so far is:

Acronis True Image 2017 (fully licensed paid for version)

Samsung Migration

Macrium Reflect Free

My system runs Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1.

My old system HD (the source drive) is 500 GB

I tried the process with all three programs in case one was not able to do it but another was and again got exactly the same results which to me seems to indicate the problem is with the EVO SSD's but I maybe wrong.

Just to make sure that my source drive is clone-able I then tried using all three programs to clone to two spare standard HD's, one a 250 GB nd the other a 500 GB and the all 3 programs cloned perfectly.

When I booted the standard drives after cloning windows booted in around 5 seconds and all of my software and product licenses had been correctly copied and were working as they should - so, to me, there is no problem with the source drive.

I will put a lot of detail here so that you know what I have tried so far and how I did it.

Here is how I performed the backup.

  1. Installed the new SSD inside my computer and then opened Computer Manager>Disc Manager
  2. From with Disc Manager I changed its Partition Style to 'MBR' and then changed the 'unallocated space' to a simple volume.
  3. I repeated the above for the USB Hard Drive - so all three drives - the old system drive I want to copy, the USB Hard Drive I am going to store my backup on and the new SSD that I want to restore my backup onto then us as the system disc - are exactly the same formatting and file systems.
  4. Using O&O Defrag (I have used this program for years) I did a 'Complete' Defrag of my old system disc before shutting my computer down.
  5. Booted to the TI 2017 boot disc and at the Acronis Menu I selected the 64 bit version of TL.
  6. From the left menu I selected 'Backup' then from the right hand menu I selected 'Disk and Partition Backup'.
  7. On the next screen 'What To Back Up' it showed two Partitions on my system disk:

A. NTFS (unlabeled) (C:) Pri [it shows that it has only 60.9 GB of Used Space]

B. NTFS (System Reserved) (D:) Pri/Act [it shows that it has only 24.14 MB of Used Space].

  1. I selected both partitions and clicked next.
  2. On the next screen 'Archive Location' I selected 'Create new backup archive' and set the 'Backup Location' as my USB Hard Disk and set a file name.
  3. On the next screen 'Finish' I clicked 'Proceed' and left TL to do its job which only took around 8 minutes.
  4. Once TL reported the backup was successful and as no images were showing in the list I then selected 'Recovery' from the left hand menu and clicked 'Refresh Backups' from the right hand menu to refresh the list of backup images (to check the backup image was showing).
  5. I then right clicked on the backup image and selected 'Validate Archive', on the next screen I selected 'Proceed'.
  6. Once TL reported 'The Archive Was Successfully Checked' I shut my computer down - removed the old system disc, move the internal SATA cable for the new SSD over onto the Primary SSD port that the old system disc had previously occupied then rebooted using the TL recovery disk.
  7. I selected the 64 bit version of TL and allowed it to finish booting.
  8. From the left hand menu I selected 'Recovery'.
  9. On the right hand side I then 'right clicked' on the image name in the list and selected 'Recover'.
  10. On the next screen 'Recovery Method' I selected 'Recover whole disks and partitions' then clicked next.

18.  On the next screen 'What To Recover' it now showed three partitions (there were only two on the one I backed up the image from:

A. NTFS (unlabeled) (C:) Pri [it shows that it has only 60.9 GB of Used Space]

B. NTFS (System Reserved) (D:) Pri/Act [it shows that it has only 24.14 MB of Used Space].

C. MBR and Track 0 (this is the new one that has appeared).

  1. I clicked all three and then 'Next'.
  2. On the next screen 'Destination of Disk 2' I selected the new SSD and then clicked next.
  3. On the next screen I clicked 'Proceed' and a new screen opens which says 'Data Recovery' showing the progress of the operation. At the bottom of this screen I also ticked the check box 'Shut Down The Computer When The Operation Is Completed'
  4. Once TL had completed and shut the computer down I removed the TL recovery disc and unplugged the USB Hard Drive that contained the backup image and then booted the computer as normal.

This is when I encountered all of the boot problems.

The drive begins to boot and gets as far as the 'Starting Windows' splash screen and sits there for 2 or 3 minutes before changing to a black screen with a mouse icon where it then freezes. Other times if I leave at this point it will eventually boot to the desktop after 20 minutes or so but the mouse or keyboard will not work although one time the mouse did work but I could not click on anything.

I won't list the steps I took using Macrium Reflect Free as that is fairly straight forward to use and Samsung Migration is even more simple but again using both of these resulted in exactly the same issues booting the SSD.

An MVP on the Acronis forum suggested I create a Win 7 repair disc using my old system drive and then try and repair the MBR on the SSD but after doing so I still have exactly the same problems.

Can anyone suggest anything as from reading various forums other people seem to be able to clone Windows 7 to EVO's with no problem?

If I can supply any further information do let me know.

Thanks in advance.

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-09-20T21:31:34+00:00

    Hi

     I'm doing the same thing going from a small SSD to a larger SSD and use windows 7 pro 64 bit .

    But you fail to say anything if you went in to the bios and changed the SATA setting from IRRT or to AHCI  etc. the SATA esttings in Bios has 3 or more settings and some of the cloning software says go to AHCI for cloning and making a bootable Hard drive ? it seems you have left out a step or two ??? Or did you leave SATA setting on IRRT which is an Intel setting on Dell latitudes AGT and XFR's . I have a 128GB Micron SSD and its locking up and freeze frame and have to pull power plug and then battery and do a restart up . And see on some sites the cloning software does not have a boot making section . Want to make sure the cloning software can make a bootable SSD.

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-02-09T20:53:55+00:00

    You seem to think that I am trying to boot windows whilst it is on an external drive but that is not what I am trying to do. I am trying to 'migrate or clone' my system drive to a new SSD which will then be installed in the same PC to replace the old drive which is a IDE HD. So sadly the thread and replys you referred me to did not help as they were about a different subject.

    However today I have successfully got it working now so that Acronis True Image 2017 will make a backup from my IDE SATA System drive and restore it onto a SSD.

    The problem was being caused by the SATA drivers and settings within my BIOS and the fact that, for some reason, after restoring my system disk image to a SSD my BIOS then required me to change the SATA configuration from IDE to AHCI. But having done so this then caused windows to freeze at boot time as Windows did not have the AHCI drivers loaded and therefore could not boot.

    So the fix was to first get Windows 7 to see my old HD as a AHCI before I make the disk image so when the image is made and then recovered to a new drive all of the drivers are in place and working. So I download the correct AHCI drivers for my motherboard and install them, made a change within Windows registry telling windows to load AHCI and not IDE (apparently Windows 7 does not load them by default even when it discovers new hardware). Shut down my PC, go into BIOS change SATA configuration from IDE to ACHI and then reboot.

    Windows now sees my old IDE drive as a AHCI and loads the new drivers. I had to reboot twice while Windows did things internally but then it was happy. I used Diskpart Clean on both the target SSD and the USB drive that I was going to store my drive image on to make sure both drives were empty and fresh.

    Shut the PC down and rebooted using the True Image Recovery Disk, made a fresh backup image of the source drive (my old system disk). When complete shut down the PC, removed the old system drive (which is on SATA port 1) and replaced it with the new SSD.

    Rebooted into TI recovery disc, recovered/restored the image to my new SSD and shut the PC down.

    Unplugged the USB Storage HD (this is where my disk image was stored) and booted my PC to the new SSD as the system drive.

    Windows see's the new SSD and says new device found - loading drivers. It then needs rebooting twice while it does things internally and it is then perfectly happy.

    Now I have a brand new SSD that TI is happy to copy and restore, windows is happy to use and so far it all seems ok.

    I have also tried using True Image's Disk Cloning to do the same task and it also works perfectly fine after you have made all of the changes I mentioned.

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  3. Anonymous
    2017-02-08T08:26:35+00:00

    Hi Kenny,

    Regarding your concern, we suggest that you check this link and check the posts from smlunatick and Carey Frisch.

    Let us know if you have any other concerns.

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