Why is Windows so bad?

No. Having multiple operating systems does not corrupt anything. In fact, if it does corrupt something, it would only be either GRUB or MBR. Those are the bootloaders that can be effected by all operating systems since they tell the computer which operating system to boot from. That's it. Everything like the blue screen of death is WITHIN the actual operating system itself. The blue screen of death is caused by Windows not having the correct files or having corrupted files in the installation process. Mostly, this is where it happens.

There is a simple fix/solution to this actually. And the answer is

DO NOT UPDATE WINDOWS

Very simple. Respectfully, a very simple solution. But guess what?

MICROSOFT FORCES WINDOWS TO UPDATE!!!!

And who's fault is that? The user's? Let's be real and honest here. Each partition acts on its own the same way each VM on a VirtualBox or Virtual Machine acts on its own. If you were to tell me that a VM is going to "crash" or "screw up" your actual host machine, then you are talking through your rear. Partitions act the same exact way as VMs do except, partitions are on your physical hard-drive and not a virtualized one.

First, Windows OS ain't no service.  I know that's what Microsoft now says - but say'n' it don't make it so. 

When I buy my computer, I buy the operating system. That is MINE.  There may come a time when I have to rent it, like Microsoft did with Office 365, but when I bought my computer - that wasn't they way it was.  Update service, I agree, is something which had to be done b/c of the speed of malware developement and compatability issues with other technology both hard and soft. And if you didn't do it - you would be eaten alive by your competition. Nonetheless, presently - MY Windows 10 is MINE, with an update service - period.  It is not a lease, I don't rent it, it's not a service - it's MINE.

NOW, if your not going to tear the old building down and put up a new one in it's place - you necessarily open yourself up to problems.  So windows lays down a foundation, then builds upon that ---- again, and again, and again.

So now you have a 50 story skyscraper on a foundation which seemed solid enough for the 2 story house you envesioned when you layed it down.

But along comes this virus and exploites the small crack in your foundation which didn't seem like a real problem at the time.  What do you do?

Microsoft's solution is to isolate that crack and put a box around it.  The problem is, what made your 50 story building attractive was the speed of your elevator.  So much space and able to get there so fast.  But this crack in the foundation is in the room where the elevator motor is. To isolate this crack, you have to abandon that room.  However, you have lots of people who can't continue to use your building without the elevator.  So how long would it take to build a new one.

According your analysis - that is simply not possible.  You have to figure out a patch so that you can still use the same elevators.  OK great - but the problem is, the patch in the elevator motor room will prevent the motor from going any faster than 1/2 speed.  The reason people liked your 50 stories is b/c you elevator was so fast, getting to any story was just as fast as going to the second floor. 

So what you do is lie.  You say "no problem".  Only a few people need the elevator to go that fast and most won't even notice the difference.... BS.

No maybe you don't have to replace the elevator shaft, or the car - but you have to replace the motor room.  And since you don't make the motor - you have to work with those who do.

As you would have it.  We just have to wait until Microsoft figures out how to make the motor go fast again without actually replacing the motor room truly fixing the crack.

While I sympathize with this conundrum; the fact of the matter is I OWN a space on the 50th floor and I PURCHASED that with high speed access  I now I don't have high speed. If Microsoft doesn't fix it w/in a reasonable period of time - I want, at a minimum, my money back.  I might CHOOSE to stay there, and a reduced price would be the new purchase price; or I might go down the street to the Linux building.  Part of the attraction of Windows is it's compatibility with more stuff than any other OS. But the bottom line is I am not getting what I paid for.

Microsoft, in its flailing effort to provide a "fix", is trying many things. Each update tries to make the "fix" better.  But the fact of the matter is, each time Microsoft makes a better patch for the crack in the foundation, the elevator gets slower. And that is not what I paid for.

I will not ever lease or rent software. Nor will I lease or rent storage space on somebody eases server aka "the cloud". It's my data, and I want access to it when I want to, store it where I want to and not be subservient to my internet connection to have access.

Like users of Facebook, although the privacy statement and terms of use agreement when you signed up dutifully spelled out all the rights you were giving away - now that the public is finally understanding what rights they gave way - there is outrage.  There will be retroactive legislation restricting the use and distribution of users data.  Sure, that will really undermine Facebook's business model.  Sure it's retroactive legislation.  Sure it's changing the rules after Zuckerberg built his 50 story skyscraper. Sure, he spelled it all out in the terms of use agreement.  SO WHAT. Legislators all over the world will find such an "agreement" against public policy and thereby void from the beginning.

Same for Microsoft. If they don't fix this problem and soon, there will be outrage and legislation or class action law suit for money. Denying it is a problem is not going to save them. In the end, it will be: "too bad for you Microsoft".  You made a defective product which customers PURCHASED.  Fix, replace or refund. Denial won't carry the day.

It's just that simple.

You can blather on if you wish - even in the era of Trump - these are the facts.

Thank you for understanding what this discussion is about.

Let me answer your rhetorical question anyways. I will again repeat what I have said in the OP.

"If my game was on a different operating system, I would NEVER use Windows. EVER."

The game developers of the game I play for some reason ONLY want to keep this game on the Windows OS. I have contacted them and I have asked them if they would make one for either Linux or Mac and they said that they can't or something like that. It was all in Korean and I don't speak Korean. I just used Google translate for it. But the whole point of me using Windows thus far is because of this game. If this game crossed platform or moved to a different OS, I honestly wouldn't be on this forum complaining and I wouldn't be using the Windows OS. I am left with my hands tied behind my back and using a half-a__ed operating system.

To be fair, the speed comparing both Windows 10 and the beloved Windows 7 is different. Windows 10 has more up-to-date security put in place. But the speed and performance has decreased. The first time I tried Windows 10 on the Insider Preview Microsoft gave to the Insider users. It was super slow and it crashed a lot. Luckily, I installed it on a VM so my hard-drive was safe. After the month of Microsoft officially releasing the Windows 10 ISO, I created a bootable USB and installed in on my hard-drive this time. I noticed that so many services were opened in the background and this was what caused the slowness of Windows 10, for me at least. And the thing is, these services are WINDOWS services. They cannot be turned off nor ended. If you end these services, your computer gets rebooted or your computer becomes corrupted. And these are what hogged so much of the CPU. In Windows 7, these services were never turned on so it was pretty smooth and fast.

> Hopefully, you're not a member of either group.

I am neither group nor anything above. I much prefer up-to-date things, the only problem with this is again, with Windows update, it takes a million years to finish (exaggeration). The problem with Windows for me is not the "pretty-ness" of the OS that makes me hate it. It is the things that makes my life a living hell when using Windows. For instance, the constant slow speed. For me to even remotely run a PC with Windows smoothly and fast is to upgrade the hardware. So let me get this straight. Linux can run on minimal hardware upgrade and run SUPER fast, yet it isn't popular outside of the tech industry? The only reason why Windows is so popular is because it has eaten a huge chunk of the market and therefore, it is known for so many decades. If Linux were to not go open source and be free and do what Windows does, then it would be probably a higher competitor. Take Mac and Windows for an example. Do you know why people know of Mac? Because it's being sold and is in the market. Just the same as Windows. But why doesn't much people know about Linux? It's because it isn't being sold and it is open source and free. And that in turn in my opinion is why Linux doesn't have much support. It's because most companies that create drivers and softwares don't want to support Linux as a large portion of the market share doesn't include Linux at all.

> Actually, you don't own your operating system.

I agree and disagree with this. You don't own the operating system, but you do own the hardware. The point I was making before about vandalism of private property is that sure Windows is owned by Microsoft and licensed to you as a user. But this does not mean that they can brick your computer just because they want to. This is a violation of code of conducts. If you the user installs a modified version of Windows, then yes. You are at fault by not adhereing to the terms and conditions that are laid out to you. However, if you did not break these terms and conditions, by bricking your computer without your consent, Microsoft is breaking their own terms of service.

Everything comes down to consent. That is the reason why Microsoft hasn't been regulated by the congress yet. Because they found a loop hole where they say "it is still in active development", but they can also change the operating system to their liking. This is why the IT field lacks code of ethics. I just finished doing a research paper on the Software Development field lacking code of ethics and an article mentioning Uncle Bob Martin. He said "And when this happens, it has to happen. It's just a matter of time. When this happens, the politicians of the world will raise up as they should. In righteous indignation which they should have. And they will point their fingers right at us. And they will ask us the question "How could you have let this happen?" They won't point at our managers because our managers will say "Oh, it's some software guy who did it for whatever reason". They will point at us. And they will ask us this question and we better have an answer for them because if our answer is "Well my boss made me do that." That is not going to fly. That is not going to be a good enough answer." He then further says "And if that is our answer then the politicians of the world will do the only thing they can do. They will legislate. They will pass sweeping regulations. They will tell us what languages we have to use, and what platforms we have to use, what processors we have to use, and what processes we have to follow, what books we have to read, what courses we have to pass, what signatures we have to get. They will regulate us."

And as each day goes, I am seeing more and more of this. Just look at Mark Zuckerberg's hearing. They are pretty much thinking about passing laws and regulations to regulate the IT field because of what Mark did. What makes you think that Microsoft won't go through the same regulations as Facebook does?

Anyways, this has gotten off-topic. I am just going to trash my hard-drive and start over.

What? You mean as serious as Microsoft forcing updates on people and breaking people's systems? You know what we call that in the real world and not a delusional world? We call that vandalism of private property. Luckily I dont have much important stuff in my Windows partitions. I just have a few screenshots of my game play that I wanted backed up. I am most likely going to trash these Windows hard-drives and run ONLY either Linux or Mac.

Oh by the way, I find it funny and ironic how these hard core die hard Windows fans act. So you're really in love with the Windows OS right? And you would argue with anyone who says otherwise right, just like in this thread right?

So then you're telling me that you want to throw your Android phone in the trash and use a Windows phone correct? No? How come? I "thought" you were riding that Windows bandwagon. Now you aren't anymore? You know what is EVEN funnier? Android runs on the Linux kernel. Didn't know that did you? How do you think it's so customizable? That's because the Linux operating system on mobile and on PC are all customizable. Don't care and only care about the Windows operating system? Such a huge hypocrite. You can't dislike something and then when it's in your favor, you turn around and like it. They call that being double standard and being a hypocrite. If you LOVE Windows so much, go Windows all the way; laptop, desktop, phone, and TV.

Anyways. If you read the title, you would have known what this discussion is about. You're the one not taking it seriously when people criticize the Windows OS and you get butt hurt about it.

Windows used to have options for updates - "hidden updates"... What is the point of offering an "uninstall update" option if Windows is just going to re-install. 

What burns my brisket is the virus patch for the "kernel" anticipatory launch problem. Microsoft said: "Most users won't notice a difference" - yeah right;  if you have an i3 single core CPU w/ 4gb of ram - you won't notice it b/c you can't get past "20mph"

• so to speak anyway.  But for those who, for what ever reason, said - 'yeah, this time I'm going to spend some money on a cutting edge machine' -  got robbed big time by Microsoft.  Your quad core i7 16gb ram and 1 tb ssd machine now runs like you i3 Pentium HP used to.  All that money for nothing. 

Chat with Microsoft and you get: "What problem - I don't know what your talking about - have you tried clearing your temp files?"  It is such BS.  So if you still want speed and power - and don't want to wait 5 more years for Intel or AMD to finally collaborate w/ Microsoft and redesign how Windows will maintain speed and security; you either:

      1) Do the 80 mph you paid for w/ a security problem; or

      2) You do 20mph and close that back door.

WTF?

Plus Windows Update will pester you hourly... so don't do anything on your computer has to run uninterrupted. God Forbid you want to actually decide what you want to do with your own computer......

Microsoft should do a VW deal - buy back all the machines at the buyer cost (plus interest) which actually slowed down b/c of this problem; or pay consumers the difference b/w what they paid for and actually got (difference b/w the i7 quad core and the i3 dual core for example). B/c that's what we're all living with. 

You want to run 5 Firefox browser windows open, 3 Word documents up, 5 PDF documents up, 2 email windows, 3 explorer windows up, cut and paste, move some files, run your backup and stream music - all at the same time ?!?!? f***ing bad for you.

ESAD microsoft.