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are these windows activation sites like SCDkey legit

Anonymous
2018-04-14T22:02:12+00:00

just wanted to ask the community or a microsoft employee are key selling sites legit and if they are why are they so cheap in comparisson to directly purchasing from microsoft

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-04-15T04:49:20+00:00

    They might selling MSDN keys:

    About MSDN or TechNet Product Keys

    They are genuine Microsoft product keys, they are actually retail licenses, but it is intended for a particular product channel either the Microsoft Software Developer Network (MSDN) or TechNet for IT Professionals who pay a subscription fee. The main purpose is for evaluation purposes. The great thing about them, unlike trial Microsoft software, MSDN or TechNet keys don't expire. Because the agreement under which the subscription is provided is a single license, none of the software should be distributed outside of it. Even though its $50,000 worth of licenses, it is for one person only to use and no one else. Unfortunately, regardless of the licensing terms, persons still abuse the program, either giveaway product keys or resell it on auction sites. Microsoft licenses it in good faith that customers won't do so, but I guess human nature wins out.

    In your case, what probably happened is, you bought an MSDN licensed key, which carries up to 10 activations unlike full packaged retail licenses which only carry 1 activation. The person who sold it to you probably sold it to 10 other persons. Somewhere along the way, one of those persons might have installed it on a second system, activated it, because it went past 10 activation threshold, Microsoft detected it that it was being abused and blocked the key from further use.

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-04-15T08:57:16+00:00

    This type or scam overusing the license described by Andre has been around for many years with disk based Windows as well.

    I was first made aware of the scam with Win7.

    There are heaps of them on ebay. Counterfeit disks made in China. MS has a site that shows how to identify the fake disks,

    and they are well done.

    The OS will activate initially, then sometime down the track the system catches up and suddenly the error to the effect...

    'Your Windows is not legitimate....' pops up when you boot into Windows.

    By then, generally as soon as the seller has flogged off X number of copies, they de-register from ebay, and registered again with

    different name, location (generally false from the start as the OS is shipped directly from China),  and isp.

    How do I know this ?  I bought one, which was not at a price that would seem 'too good to be true', but at a decent saving.

    I was fortunate to have bought one of his last copies and noticed he had de-registered a couple days later.

    I started an action with ebay and PayPal straight away, and got my money back (whew!)

    The boxed disk arrived in Oz from Gangzhow about three weeks later. I still have it as an example of Chinese counterfeiting ingenuity.

    • I was aware Pro and Ultimate were the most commonly pirated Windows, but I was wanting a key for Home because I had cloned

    my Win7 to use on a new machine.

    Now I know even Home can't be trusted unless bought from an on line hardware retailer, retail shop, or directly from MS.

    .

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-04-15T02:12:52+00:00

    Ok I found scdkey, the problem was I thought you were talking about Windows, Office, and the other programs from Microsoft we support on these forums. That site certainly is not an authorized dealer for any of those hence my confusion.

    If they are legitimate then maybe their pricing is on older versions or such. If prices are well below the usual market prices then I would be very skeptical. Check with the actual maker of any game you are considering.

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-06-22T03:56:47+00:00

    Lars - I don't know if this helps clarify what is really going on - I stumbled on this thread when I asked the same question you initially did, which is HOW can they sell these so cheap?  So this is personal real-world experience with one of the major vendors, SCDKEY.com.  To start off, note that they accept FIAT currency, visa/mc/paypal/echecks - not some fly by night shady character at a flea market selling dvd-roms with license cards from a copier or ebay scam or darkweb bitcoin transaction.  If they were involved in what people have speculated, such as buying a wholesale license for 5 installs then reselling that license 5 times to 5 people - the chargebacks on the credit cards would ruin them, and no doubt expose them to prosecution for blatant piracy.  I found another game-selling-company mentioned in a youtube video about assembling PCs and buying a win 10 home lic for $8-10 where that other seller sold "insurance" you could buy to guarantee a new code if yours is used up and doesn't work for some strange reason.  That was really sketchy so I went looking for more "reputable" license stores, which is how I ran across SCDKEY.com.  They don't offer to sell you "insurance" on a bad code, which made me feel a whole lot better working with them.

    Earlier this year, I bought a 2018 HP spectre x360 with win 10 home, and opted not to buy the $70 HP factory upgrade to pro.  When I got the machine, I shopped around, and bought the full-retail equivalent license for win10pro fresh install from scdkey which was $21 and good for ~5 installs on 5 PCs in the same house.  I'd built my desktop from scratch, so it needed a full install no matter what.  I installed my desktop, new laptop, and 2 other win10home systems with the full win10pro retail for $21, yielding 4 installs/upgrades for $21.  This was 4 months ago.  I recently got a used laptop given to me which came with win10home - and when I used my old key from SCDKEY - it still had 1 install remaining, so used the code a 5th time, and got the entire 5 installs with no over-selling.

    Having had a good prior experience, and feeling like it was legit enough to use again when I needed 5 copies of MS Office 2016-PRO, I went back to scdkey, logged in with my ID to scdkey and sure enough they had the records of my last purchase online - so I bought the 5-pc lic for office 2016-PRO.  This license requires a Microsoft account to tie to it, so I used the same one I'd used for win10pro, and once again it worked fine.  Microsoft associates that license with my windows ID and nobody else's.  I got my 5 systems installed and registered on Microsoft just like if I'd bought office 2016 from a retail establishment - total cost was $31 for a ~$209 program.

    So, my experiences have been purely positive.  If I could get deals like this on Adobe or other vendors, I'd buy more software.  Microsoft certainly could run out and kill those licenses, but they have not chosen to do so.  Since nobody here is a Microsoft marketing manager, for all we know, this may be their business model to dominate the op-sys and office software space.

    The rest here is pure speculation on my part.  I know HP makes money selling win10pro at $70, which is less than Microsoft offers an "upgrade" - but - hp must support that sale, and NEVER let this customer call Microsoft (who will hang up after telling you to call HP).  Perhaps scdkey is claiming to be an OEM, and knows their clients are self sufficient enough to not need handholding?  Maybe they have a corporate license, and give you a login to their website as an "employee"?  Again, just me speculating.  What I can say for certain is that SCDKEY.com is in the business of selling discounted software licenses, and they know what they are doing.   They've been doing this for quite a while, and making money at it - so hopefully they'll be around when I need my next licenses.

    Xavier

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-10-21T18:37:17+00:00

    In the European Union it is perfectly legal to resell licenses that you don't need (Court of Justice of the European Union PRESS RELEASE No 94/12):

    https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-07/cp120094en.pdf

    As far as I know most of the keys on platforms like SCDkey come from volume licenses that companies bought in the first place and then did't use the full volume. So they can sell not needed licenses to 3rd parties on platforms like SCDkey. As far as I can tell (I am not a lawyer) this is perfectly legal even if companies like Microsoft and Oracle don't like it.

    I don't know how it looks like in the US.

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