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Win 7 Support Ending; Now What?

Anonymous
2019-10-30T00:45:27+00:00

My computer can't run Win 10.  I tried to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 when it first came out and it locked up during installation with no error messages.  I called Panasonic and their Rep told me my computer cannot run Win 10.  Now support for Win 7 is ending.  I am a military retiree living on a small fixed pension and can't afford a new computer. What am I suppose to do?

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  1. Anonymous
    2019-10-30T14:09:15+00:00

    My comments below do NOT apply to enterprise installations.  They do however apply to the average Mary and Joe home use of Windows.

    The reality is that hundreds of millions of Win7 systems will continue to operate well beyond the MS “end of support” date come Jan 2020.  As of this date Win7 still has more than 35% of the market and Win10 after 4 hard years just passed 44%.  In my opinion, the loss of that support will bring stability to an excellent platform that has seen much turmoil and damage by MS sub-standard and devious efforts to “update” it. 

    What is astounding to me, is my discovery that my ending “support” May 2017, it now appears clear that the paranoid push to “update” is way over-blown.  To this day my now 120 client Win7 systems run better than they have by a long shot now compared to previous to that time.  There has yet to be a single instance of any kind of problem as a result of discontinuation of updates in these 29 months.- 3480 computer months of use.

    The paranoia around updating still abounds in the Windows tech world.

    I am well down the path to creating what I call “Final State” system images for all my clients.   In effect, they make it possible to continue to use Win7 for as long as the computer is still used.  Replacing any part butthe mother board should be possible.  In fact, Microsoft could evaporate and these systems will continue to operate just fine.

    Keep in mind that all development on Windows 7 ended Dec 31, 2014.   View updates since then with suspicion, especially ones that are not security related.  At that same time, QC for Windows updates (WU) was ended.  Consequently WU quality has become highly suspect.   This has affected Microsoft Office as well.  Do not accept driver updates from Microsoft.  Only get them from the OEM for your equipment.  Note that other than a re-install, you should never update a driver unless you have a specific problem that it solves and then only that specific driver.

    1.       Reset Windows Update setting to Never  

    2.       Switch to the Chrome browser

    3.       Install the free VLC media player

    4.       Stop using Internet Explorer

    5.       Uninstall Adobe Flash Player

    6.       Uninstall Adobe Reader

    7.       Uninstall Java

    8.       Install a top-rated antivirus (AV) product (I do not recommend "security" products)

    9.       Do backups regularly

    10.   Consider re-installing Windows and create an image copy of the installation

    11.   If your hard drive is over 5 years old, consider replacing it (under $100) before you re-install

    12.   When your system no longer functions, buy a new one.

    Note, when you re-install using such an image, you do not need an installation disk or any activation.   I just did one of these this week and it took me less than 2 hours instead of 12.

    A good solid source of information on AV products is https://www.av-comparatives.org/

    When you re-install, you must run Windows Update.  My Windows Update strategy is based on three key events:

    1.  Dec 31, 2014 all Win7 development ended.  Therefore anything that is NOT security and issued later than 2014, is something you do not want because it is how MS tries to make your Win7 machine operate more like win10 from its own perspective

    2.  September 2016.  The last date that you were able to select out updates you do not want.  Rollups began

    3.  Security-only updates were available until June 2017, when they fixed a bum Security only update in a Rollup.  That meant if you used a June 2017 Security only update, you installed a bug which you cannot fix unless you install a rollup.  I presume this policy continues to this day

    In addition, Office updates started going haywire all over the place starting in June 2017.

    So, when you do a re-install, you want to be selective on which updates offered you accept.  I follow the above dates and end all updating of any kind that was issued after May 2017.

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  2. Anonymous
    2019-10-30T06:02:21+00:00

    Before you g trying to upgrade to 10 again, remember that your upgrade failed during installation which means that you never received a digital entitlement for 10.

    With the end result:

    The free upgrade to Windows 10 offer from Microsoft expired on the 29th July, 2016.

    You will have to contact MS support and they may be able to assist you with a free upgrade to 10..

    Also read this information:

    All the Ways You Can Still Upgrade to Windows 10 for Free

    Here's how you can still get a free Windows 10 upgrade | ZDNet

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    Upgrade to Windows 10: FAQ - Windows Help - Microsoft Support

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    Windows 10 supported upgrade paths:

    ✔ = Full upgrade is supported including personal data, settings, and applications.

    D = Edition downgrade; personal data is maintained, applications and settings are removed.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/upgrade/windows-10-upgrade-paths

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    First thing to do is to make sure that you have the correct system requirements and that your Computer Manufacturer supplies the correct Drivers for 10 for your Model Number.

    "Windows 10 System Requirements"

    https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/3884/windows-10-system-requirements

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/windows-10-specifications#sysreqs

    If you read those Microsoft's system requirements for 10, you will find that if you only go on them you will be sadly disappointed in performance.

    You should at least double what they say.

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    Detailed information on Minimum hardware requirements:

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/minimum-hardware-requirements-overview

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    Some Manufacturers have listed Model Numberss tested with 10 at their website:

    ASUS - Windows 10 - Which model supports upgrade to Windows 10?

    Acer - Windows 10 Creators Update

    Dell computers tested for Windows 10 October 2018 Update and previous versions of Windows 10

    The following Gateway laptops, desktops and tablets have been tested as being suitable to install Windows 10 Creators Update

    HP Products Tested with Windows 10

    Lenovo devices tested for Windows 10 version 1809 (October 2018

    Samsung - Find out if your system runs Windows 10.

    Sony - What do I need to install Windows 10 on my PC?

    Toshiba - Models tested

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    If you do have to buy Windows 10:

    How to buy Windows 10:

    http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en\_US/cat/Windows/categoryID.70036700

    Cheers.

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  3. Anonymous
    2019-10-30T05:30:23+00:00

    My computer can't run Win 10.  I tried to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 when it first came out and it locked up during installation with no error messages.  I called Panasonic and their Rep told me my computer cannot run Win 10.  Now support for Win 7 is ending.  I am a military retiree living on a small fixed pension and can't afford a new computer. What am I suppose to do?

    What is your computer and what are your computers specifications so to have a closer look as to what it can run and cannot run ???

    Desktop or Laptop / Model / Series so to be able to have a look at their support site and retrieve a pdf file on its specifications.

    If it runs slow on Windows 7 and it is a single core CPU with less than 4 gigabyte of memory i would not suggest Windows 10.

    Many times just using the Upgrade path will fail on older computers.

    Usually the best way would be to do a full clean install of Windows 10.

    ( Problem being there is it seems that this is the only computer that you have and use therefore experimentation is out of the question as you may loose everything by experimenting so you would want to back everything up first to some external media in case it all goes pear shaped and you would then have to re-install Windows 7 ).

    Basically you would use the Media Creation Tool to make the Installation Media of Win 10.

    This is more or less a complete container ( snapshot ) of Windows 10 which can be placed on a USB Flash Drive / written to a CD / DVD or just saved as a ISO Image File for later use to create the installation media.

    The ISO File ( Image ) is a Archive File that contains a identical copy ( snapshot ) of data and collection of files in one file.

    Have a read of the link below.

    It explains better than i do.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10 

    Many older computers were designed for XP and Vista but are capable of running Windows 10.

    Some of the main issues arising with installing Windows 10 on these usually relates to Support and Drivers for the particular computers Chip-sets in relations to the Manufacturer.

    Many times one can install for instance a Windows Vista Driver for these Chip-sets to get Windows 10 up and running without the Device Manager throwing a wobbly.

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  4. Anonymous
    2019-10-30T02:43:10+00:00

    With end of support Microsoft is not telling you that your operating systems won't work.

    What they are saying is that after a certain date they will no longer support them.

    Whether they still work or not with particular programs is up to the particular program manufacturers.

    Example: Google Chrome is no longer supported for security updates in XP or Vista by Google and Mozilla Firefox is following the same path.

    What this basically means with Microsoft no longer supporting an operating system is that even though hackers may find "holes" and vulnerabilities to be able to access the operating systems and cause security problems, Microsoft will no longer be monitoring or rectifying those problems by way of Security Updates each month.

    You are on your own in regards to maintaining the Security of your operating systems.

    What does it mean if Windows isn't supported?

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    This will show you when support (Mainstream and Extended Support) for the various operating systems ends.

    Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help - Microsoft Support

    And these FAQs show you how Microsoft arrived at the Support Lifecycle Policy:

    Microsoft Lifecycle Policy FAQ

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/17140/lifecycle-faq-general-policy-questions

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