Old School CD Expert needed! How to read data folder of old 2006 CD-XA MULTI CD Single in Windows 10. Getting no where.

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Old School CD Expert needed! How to read data folder of old 2006 CD-XA MULTI CD Single in Windows 10. Getting no where.

Anonymous

ASUS Vivobook 15

Windows 10

ASUS SDRW-08D2S-U Lite Slim DVD-RW

I have asked this before and no one was able to suggest anything, this has been going on for a month or so now.

This needs an old School CD tech expert plus Windows Expert who knows CD intimatly as well as Windows.

I have several Music CD's from 2006 that, as well as the music, have user accessable files such as video, image files and small software apps. The data sections can clearly be seen when you hold the CDs under a light and the data section in around mounting hole. I think this means the data is after the last music track?. The data section are not protected in any way and the CD inserts recomend that the files are copied to a users harddrive to prevent audio glitching (this is a 2006 CD afterall).

From searching online, this suggests that the CDs are XA-Multi CD format and possibly authored using Macromedia and may not meet the more modern Bluebook standard.

Windows 10 will read and play the music files perfectly but it does not see the enhanced data files at all. I have tried ISO Buster but it does not work. I tried a program called AnyToISO which gave the error You cannot create ISO Image of a multisession disk". This confirms that the CD has a data section.

I have tried creating a Windows 95 machine in Oracle Virtual Box and although it can see and play the audio, it also can not see the data files.

I tried the same but with Windows XP VM but the same result.

I do have a 2006 Pioneer IDE DVD-Rom in a modern USB cart that my Vivobook sees and is quite happy to access and play Music from the CDs but again, the data files can not been seen.

I wonder if this is because Windows 10, and the Motherboard, simply do not know how to process the old pre bluebook standards of CD's?

The software app AnyToIso confirms the CD are Multisession

If I create a Bin & Cue file in IMG Burn and drop the Cue file onto Notepad it shows that a data track does exist (just like AnyToISO does)...

CATALOG 0602517130500

FILE "Image.bin" BINARY

TRACK 01 AUDIO

ISRC GBUM70501024

INDEX 01 00:00:00

TRACK 02 AUDIO

ISRC GBUM70604742

INDEX 00 03:35:68

INDEX 01 03:37:51

TRACK 03 AUDIO

ISRC GBUM70605076

INDEX 00 06:54:23

INDEX 01 06:56:06

TRACK 04 DATA

ISRC GBUM70604743

INDEX 00 11:03:26

INDEX 01 11:05:09

Also in case it helps, the following information is taken from a info file one of the later CDs that do work in windows 10 (albiet in Win XP compatability mode)

"The PC version also includes an autorun.inf file which makes the U-MYX player automatically launch when the disk is inserted.

What Will We Deliver?

We can deliver a single-session hybrid disk which contains two separate data layers – one for Windows computers and another one for MacOS computers. Because the disk has two data layers (ISO and HFS), Windows users will not see the MacOS executable (and likewise, MacOS users will not see the Windows executable).

What is the Next Step?

When you have received the disc from us you will need to supply it to your manufacturers, they can then combine the enhanced session that we have created with the audio data from your CD (creating an Enhanced CD). If your manufacturers require any further assistance, please put them in contact with us."

This is what AnyToIso retirns when I try to create an ISO of either of the two discs.

Here are two images of the data side of the two CDs in question

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Answer 1

Hi,

Just trying to help as I see no one else has responded..

Unfortunately I just recycled my Windows XP Pro Media Center Edition PC last month or I could check further..

My point is that some of the tips for BURNING these types of discs may be helpful in playing them by identifying what types of files or drivers may be missing..

I have done some more checking on playing commercial Enhanced CDs and found a couple of old posts that describe your problem and what may be needed.. Most describe machines older than XP and mention Apple's Quick Time Player..

By chance can you find any type of setup file on the CD.. Or any type of .exe file at all ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cd_collectors/comments/p043p0/enhanced_cd_how_the_heck_can_i_play_this_thing/

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/help-enhanced-cds-how-to-access-here-in-2018.25060/

https://judyanddavid.com/help/ecdfaq.html

BTW... I have been on the Windows 8, 10, and 11 Forums since 2012 as well as responses to the Windows 7 and Vista Forums, and most of the MVPs that originally posted at that time are no longer doing so.. In fact, most of the MVPs of 2-3 years ago are no longer responding.. I can think of maybe four at the moment..

Answer 2

Hi slance310

I need to point out again that I did not create this Enhanced CD.

I am not making any assuptions on your age but starting in the 90's and peaking in 2010 record labels often included an enhanced section on an artists Album or CD Single. The Enhanced section would contain things like videos of the songs or interviews, Image files of the band or artist, some had things like screen savers feat, the band or artist, a few had computer games featuring the band or artist and in my case some had other software that was related to the band or artist.

I am not an expert in any way regarding how these CD's were authored, I have no clue what so ever so that site you pointed me two, sadly, does not help me.

All I know is, put one of these CD's in a CD-ROM drive of a computer in 2006 and they work.

Put in in the CD-ROM drive of a modern Windows 10 machine and the dont.

That tells me that it is a Windows 10 issue and as this is the windows 10 section of the Microsoft Answers forum then someone here should have the answer instead of pointing me to other websites instead of giving me practical advice on how to make Windows to read these CD's.

Like I said in my last post, there must be Microsoft MVP's who have this expertise as we are only talking about 16

year old tech and many people still use Win XP.

Answer 3

Anonymous

Hi,

You might take a look at this link.. If nothing else it may direct you to something useful..

https://brebru.com/makecd/index1a_page4.html

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Answer 4

Hi slance310

Thank you for your reply, much appreciated.

I did not burn these CD.s, they are commercial CD Singles from 2006 and the common authoring program of that time I believe was Macromedia but no idea if that was used for these CD's.

Yes I mentioned that I had tried ISO Buster in my post above (4th paragraph down).

Without being told otherwise by an expert who was around in the 2000's, I believe one of the issues could be that modern DVD-roms do not know how to read the CD as the modern ones are not built to do so or/and the same applies to Windows 10.

I still feel that someone with the appropiate knowledge could suggest ways I could make Windows 10 read the CD, maybe registry settings or ini files.

The Microsoft MVP's that were around in the 2000's cant all have left the forum?

Answer 5

Hi,

Do you remember what program you used to burn the discs ?

I don't think any early Windows OS's had built in capabilities to burn multisession discs.. A 3rd party burner was required..

Without access to the program that burned the CDs, you may need to resort to a program called ISOBuster..

Part of your issue may be related to whether the CDs were "Finalized" or not which determines how readable they are..

Some programs like Nero and Roxio included features for Packet Writing..

BTW.. Here is a note that popped up during a search of your issue. You may be able to find something from Adaptec to resolve your problem..

QUOTE: Note: Packet writing, another approach to adding data incrementally to a disc, is not the same as multisession. Packet writing is supported by Adaptec's DirectCD

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