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Hi, after I upgraded to Windows 11 (this didn't happen in Windows 10) my CPU started to have this strange behavior in which, after booting Windows (turning on the computer for the first time) or waking up the computer from sleep mode (this behavior only happens in these two scenarios) all the fans start spinning at maximum speed and the CPU even with nothing open hits 95c (its thermal limit) and even ends up going over the limit without throttling itself for an extended period of time and then “goes back to normal” with a temperature of 33-37c. This is really worrying me and I don't know what else to do.
Things I've tried and not succeeded:
Photos:
CPU overheating and reaching its thermal limit right after starting Windows or Waking it up from Sleep Mode (with no apps open in the background) and stays like that for a long period of time while not throttling itself
After some time on that state CPU goes back to "normal" at 33-37c
CPU does not overheat while gaming or when doing stress tests
CPU does not overheat while on BIOS
Notes:
The thermal paste was changed 1 month ago.
The water cooler is very well attached to the processor, it doesn't seem to be it, since everything was fine before I did the upgrade to Windows 11.
I've never touched any advanced BIOS settings and or overclocked anything. The only thing I ever did was activating the DOCP profile a long time ago so that my RAM always runs at 4800 (and I've never had any problems in Windows 10 with that on).
I've tried everything and nothing seems to fix it, I'm almost giving up on Windows 11 and either going full Linux or going back to Windows 10, has anyone had a similar problem? I need to solve this soon before the headache gets worse (my system has been behaving this way for a week now).
System Info:
Motherboard: Asus Tuf Gaming x670e-plus
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600
Water Cooler: 240mm Cougar
GPU: Asus RTX 3060 (12VRAM)
GPU (integrated): Radeon Graphics
RAM: 2x16gb DDR5 Kingston Fury 4800hz
Storage: 500gb Kingston NVME (System), 1TB Crucial SATA SSD, 1TB WDC HDD
OS: Windows 11 Pro
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Hi ,
Strange, everything is fine. Go to the AI OC tab and see if it's disable it.
Do the following basic test: enable the platform thermal throttle limit option > set it to manual and set it to 75.
Disable the IGPU if it's enabled in the BIOS settings.
It may be in the Advanced\NB Configuration > Primary Video devices options; keep PCIE > Integrated Graphics > Disabled.
Restart and Test.
Give feedback if the information was useful or not.
Thanks
Hi,
I disabled the Integrated Graphics
set the Thermal Throttle Limit to 75
And checked to see if the AI OC was enabled or not
Also, is the option AI Overclock Tuner the same as AI OC or similar to it? This one is set to use the DOCP Profile, which was the only thing changed on my BIOS a long time ago (after finishing building the PC) so that my Memory could star at 4800mhz (which is its max & advertised speeds).
I will leave my pc on sleep mode while I do something else and see if that behavior shows up again (it only happens when turning on the pc or waking it up from sleep mode as I said before) and come back here.
And also, if this behavior continues, then it could be the pump of my water cooler that is “failing” or “delaying and not turning on with the with Windows (could this be possible? it seems to be working for me)”. I've been thinking about this and at the same time I don't think it is (since the brand of my water cooler is very reliable and durable, and it's still a year old, which is too little to be faulty), because as I described above, the following behavior happens in these two scenarios (turning the computer on and waking it up):
The computer turns on, I log in, and instantly all the fans (counting the ones in the water cooler) start spinning at maximum speed, and the temperatures instantly rise to 95c or progressively so (without any applications open or anything consuming the cpu), it stays like that for quite a while without any bottlenecks, and finally the temperature instantly drops to 33-37c. I've done tests in games (the temperatures didn't go above 68c), in the BIOS the temperatures always stay at 31-37c, and in stress tests (in this case I used the CPU Z one) the temperatures don't go above 68-71c either. I really don't think it's my water cooler as HWINFO shows the pump spinning all the time at 2000rpm and also because it's never happened in Windows 10.
Hi ,
If possible, take a photo in the Main and AI Tweaker tabs on Bios.
I've seen a problem related to this with the AI Optimizer configuration failing with AMD PPT in the BIOS.
You can run the AMD ECO test or manually configure PBO, but to be sure, I need these photos.
Thanks
If possible, take a photo in the Main and AI Tweaker tabs on Bios.
BIOS EzMode
Main page
AI Tweaker
If possible, take a photo in the Main and AI Tweaker tabs on Bios.
DRAM Timing
PBO
Hi, thanks for the reply
Due to Microsoft Learn's limitations and AI Moderation I cant seem to post these photos, but I will try one more thing.
Hi ,
Thanks for the photos, follow the procedure I sent in the response post and do the test and give me feedback.
Thanks
It seems that the overheating problem has completely ceased. The CPU hasn't been overheating for a week , neither when I turn it on or when I resume Windows from sleep. I really don't know if it has fixed itself and what it could be. I'll definitely keep monitoring this odd behavior and maybe change something in the BIOS and see if there's nothing suspicious there again.
The only thing I don't understand is this constant warning that keeps showing up in the Event Viewer
Can I just ignore it or could it have something to do with the problem I'm having, and how can I stop it?
Hi ,
This issue would be a power error in the logs. I don't know why we set the temperature limits, but it could be considered a hardware failure on the motherboard. Don't take this issue away. Another thing is that you haven't inverted the CPU and GPU power inputs. I know it's almost impossible for it not to work, but I've seen reports.
Thanks
@Ivan B Hello Ivan, the issue is back again
I've already checked all cables and pc parts, everything seems to be working fine. I've also noticed that this behavior has only been happening after resuming windows from sleep, but there is also nothing weird on Event Viewer, this is honestly giving me a pretty bad headache.
I've checked all voltages with HWINFO + fan speeds and AIO PUMP seems to be working and dont have any sort of delay. The AIO PUMP is always at 2000rpm too, even when this weird behavior happening.
One thing I noticed is that after a while in this overheated state, the Water Cooler makes a kind of noise (like a toilet flushing) and the temperatures return to normal instantly (33-34c), but my water cooler works fine when playing games and other things.
As I said before, this is what is happening: Either my PC goes to sleep because it has been idle for too long, or I put it to sleep (to have lunch, among other things) > I wake it up by pressing the power button > it wakes up and instantly increases the speed of all fans and overheats, reaching 85-90c > lowers the CPU clock to 0.4hz because it has exceeded 80-90c thermal limit, and even after lowering the clock, the CPU cannot return to a stable temperature, remaining like this for a few minutes > finally, the water cooler makes that noise and everything stabilizes.
Are there any options I could disable/enable/view regarding sleep mode...or something on my BIOS (which is in the latest version, version 3265)? And yes, I've already disabled Fast Startup and put processor power power management to min: 5% and max: 100%.
Do you have any idea what/who could be causing this behavior I've been experiencing? I really don't know what it is, and I've tried everything. The only things I know are that
1- My PC works normally for games and more demanding tasks
2- I assembled my PC correctly (including the cables), the parts are still 1 year old, and this has never happened to me on Windows 10
3- Such behavior does not happen in my BIOS or in Safe Mode
Hi ,
Well, there's the issue of disabling Windows from never suspending or entering hibernation, and when it exits, it locks the screen. It's an option, but it's very strange. This problem might be a delay in the power cooler turning on. As it turns on, it will transition quickly, hence the sound.
Disable the computer's sleep mode in the power options.
Thanks
Yes, that's very strange. My computer was working fine on Windows 10, but now, for some reason, it really seems like there's some kind of delay in my water cooler pump every time the computer exits sleep mode, but it's not frequent. For example, I put my computer into sleep mode an hour ago and left to have dinner. I just resumed it, and this time my water cooler made the sound of running water the moment I clicked the power button, and it didn't overheat... Yes, it's funny that it doesn't seem to happen all the time, and only happens when the computer is resumed from sleep mode.
At first, this also happened when booting Windows, but after turning off the iGPU through the BIOS, it stopped happening for a week and then simply came back. except now it only happens when resuming from sleep mode, and not every time. I really can't explain what's happening, and it's making me very frustrated, since I use this computer for freelance work and entertainment and have never had anything like this before (and no, my CMOS battery isn't so low that it would reset the BIOS; it's still very new).
I found a Reddit post from two years ago describing a similar issue to mine, and the comments also mentioning that their water cooler pump had a delay, but none of the comments had a solution. post
Here is a pic of the temps after waking it up from sleep just now, as you can see they are normal (is it normal for the CPU to briefly go to 49-50c+ when starting windows 11 or exiting sleep mode? it wasnt like that on windows 10)
And if my pump is really being delayed, what could be the cause of this?
The water cooler radiator fans (CPU, I think) and chassis fans are ok, HWINFO is always showing the AIO Pump at 2000rpm, but in reality, whenever this problem occurs, it seems that the pump is the only thing that does not work after waking from sleep mode, only working after a while (indicated by the sound of water that I described in the previous comment).
Hi ,
In this case, the problem could be with the motherboard, a problem with the pump controller starting, or a Windows bug, but I haven't found anything specific to Windows 11 yet.
You can do the following: disable sleep mode completely, and when you exit, just lock the computer.
An alternative solution is to reinstall Windows and test on both Windows 10 and Windows 11.
Thanks
Hi ,
AI Overclock Tuner is different from AI Oc.
Keep it with DOCP. I don't believe it's a watercooler problem, but rather a driver conflict with Windows 11 startup. What would be the limiting issue? Let's see if the BIOS settings are being applied.
This is a very strange problem. I've seen the issue related to AI Over from Gigabyte and ASUS ROG, but the options are different on TUF, which caused a similar problem. The difference was that the failure was constant with this option enabled.
Do the tests and let me know.
Thanks
Hi ,
Did you manage to solve the problem?
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Hi Ivan,
It seems that after disabling what you asked me to do in the BIOS (in this case I only disabled my CPU's integrated graphics card and lowered the thermal throttle limit to 75c) my computer is no longer experiencing the problem described. But of course, I'm still going to do another test tomorrow:
I have a spare ssd inside my machine and I'm thinking of either installing Windows 10 or Linux Mint and to see if my CPU overheats when I turn it on or wake it up from sleep mode, and let you know the results of course. If this doesn't happen with these two operating systems, it means that something really strange is happening when installing Windows 11.
And question, if it really is a driver like you said, how could I fix it?
Hi ,
I understand, I believe I hope I'm right, but doing the tests with the bios options may have completely resolved it and it doesn't occur in OS 10 and Linux.
Give feedback if the information was useful or not.
Thanks
Hi ,
Did you manage to solve the problem?
Thanks
Hello, Ivan,
Yes, after several tests Windows 11 is no longer showing such behavior, and indeed the reason was the iGPU in question, but somehow this has never happened to me in Windows 10 or Linux Mint, at the time I used both a lot, my CPU is finally no longer doing that, the only thing that happens now is that when the pc boots into windows the processor only spikes at 45-48c and quickly returns to 33-37c (which should be normal in Windows 11 of course).
Regarding my iGPU, I'm going to keep it disabled and uninstall the drivers and AMD's adranaline software because a friend of mine told me that since I have a dedicated card (RTX 3060) it's better to keep the iGPU disabled, since I've never used it anyway.
Thank you very much for your help Ivan, I really never thought it could be this, since it never happened to me on Windows 10, and it was giving me quite a headache.
@Ivan B Hi Ivan, what's up? It's me again, and I have some bad news...
Well, it's been 3 weeks since the overheating on boot or after resuming windows from sleep stopped, after disabling the iGPU through the BIOS, which was one of your solutions, but today, after programming and working on Blender as I always do, I put my computer to sleep, and went to dinner, then I came back and resumed it from sleep and to my surprise the same behavior of 3 weeks ago started happening in front of me again, all the fans of my pc started to spin at maximum speed and the CPU reached 95c even with its thermal throttle limit set to 75c (which was one of the things you asked me to do). There was nothing open and the CPU at 100%. It stayed at 95c while windows was extremely laggy (since the clock had dropped to 0.5hz) for a long period of time, I thought about restarting the pc and ended up getting this error.
I really don't know what else to do anymore, I'm 100% sure that the problem isn't my pc parts, This is really driving me crazy, everything was fine for 3 weeks after I disabled the iGPU on BIOS and it just came back out of nowhere.
Hi ,
Hey man, this is weird, just to make sure you assembled your PC?
Thanks
Hi Ivan, thanks for replying back!
And yes, I assembled it myself, 1 year ago and did everything correctly, never had any problems when I was on windows 10.
Also, I was looking on event viewer and noticed this warning that I've never seen before, could this be related?
