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Disable multilevel list in Word 2013?

Anonymous
2014-09-08T04:52:43+00:00

Hi friends,

I've just discovered the power of Word 2013's multilevel lists when paired with Heading styles. However, as is so often the case, now that I've discovered this power, I can't control it, i.e. turn it off!

In the Ribbon, under the Home tab, I click "Multilevel List" to select a multilevel list style to associate with Heading 1, Heading 2, etc. But if I want to disable this, clicking "Multilevel List" and selecting "None" from the "List Library" only disables the list style for the heading where the cursor is currently located. 

If I have multiple lines selected, clicking "Multilevel List" and choosing "None" from the List Library does remove the list style from all headings in the selected text. But creating subsequent headings applies the previously selected multilevel list style, also not the desired behavior.

What I am looking for is a way to totally toggle whether the multilevel list styles are in force. How can I do this?

Thanks,

 - Drew

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  1. Suzanne S Barnhill 277.4K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2014-09-09T16:22:38+00:00

    I'm not surprised that removing the list from the library doesn't Undo it from the document, but, while the "Remove from List Library" command does not appear for the "Current list," it does appear for the same list in the Library below. It would seem to me that the way to change the numbering would be to apply a different list linked to the same styles.

    To remove numbering altogether, although it would be possible to define a multilevel list with no numbering, each level linked to a heading style, another approach would be to select None for a given heading, then update the style. That is, click in a Heading 1, click the Multilevel List dropdown, choose None, then right-click the Heading 1 style in the Quick Styles gallery or Styles pane and choose Update Heading 1 to Match Selection.

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-09-08T08:35:29+00:00

    In my opinion, Microsoft has really messed up the application of something that used to work really well (going from Word 2003 to Word 2007 and beyond).

    Essentially, unless you're willing to muck around with the XML, Microsoft has provided no way to remove multilevel lists introduced into a document.

    So what you want to do is:

    1. Select a heading (one that still has one of your lists numbers).
    2. Right click on the number and choose Adjust List Indents (or, making sure that step 1 has been done, click on the Multilevel list tool, and choose--very counter-intuitively--Define New Multilevel list)
    3. This will open the Multilevel list dialog. Click on More at the bottom left.
    4. Repeat this for each heading level

      a) click on the heading level (1 through 9, or however many you have used) at the top left

      b) Set Link level to Style (near the top right) to "(no style)"

    1. Click OK.

    Now you can still use your heading styles, and the numbers will not be added. But beware, that multilevel numbering list is still lurking in the unseen regions of your document, because, as I have said, the way Microsoft changed this in Word 2007 (and since) means they have given us no easy way of deleting these lists.

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-09-09T08:27:18+00:00

    Hi Doug

    I agree with you 100% that "the proper thing to do is to define the styles that you want to use in the document so that to obtain the required formatting, you just apply the appropriate style. ".

    But you seem to have missed Drew's question--Drew was learning about multilevel styles, and created one but couldn't delete it once created. I'm sure Drew has learned a lot in the whole process, but no amount of learning what the right way of doing things is, will address the question of how to get rid of the wrongly-done thing created while learning. And that was Drew's question: Not "What's the right way to do it?", but "How do I delete the wrong thing I created while I was learning?"

    My point was that Microsoft has provided no easy way to remove multilevel lists once they have been introduced into a document, which, from experience working with students who struggle with numbering in big documents like theses and dissertations, is a big omission. I sometimes see documents with quite a few unnecessary list styles created in the process of trying to get it right. And these just clutter things up, and sometimes the students themselves don't know which one is the right one, and end up incorporating several "competing" lists in one document--you can imagine the nightmare that results from that.

    I'm afraid that telling those poor students what the right way to do things is at that moment is akin to kicking them while they're down--what they need is a solution for the mess, not a lesson on how to not create the mess. The lesson is needed, for sure, so that they don't create a mess like this again, but that comes afterwards, and the lesson doesn't clean up the already existing mess.

    I find it odd that Microsoft allows you to delete new (i.e., custom) styles that you create, but does not allow you to delete new multilevel lists that you create. Basically, it comes down to a no-mistakes allowed approach (not quite true, but if you're still learning, then mistakes can be more costly than they should). Allowing one to delete multilevel lists would allow one the option of resetting the clock a bit on a document, and starting over again, this time trying to do it the way you said.

    But I must comment on what you said as well, as it's not quite that simple. Up until Word 2003, you could set your multilevel lists while modifying your style. This was a clean and efficient process, and allowed for much less confusion. Up until Word 2003, what you said would have covered it.

    But then in Word 2007, Microsoft separated out the numbering, so that you could not access the multilevel lists while defining your styles. Even the link you gave from Shauna Kelly's website shows this, with two separate pages for <=2003 vs >=2007. Thus, since Word 2007, defining styles alone give you formatted headings, but it will not give you formatted-and-outline-numbered headings. To get the outline numbering, you now, in addition, have to set up a multilevel list and link it to the styles (sure, some in the gallery are pre-linked, but that only works in the small number of cases where you are 100% happy with the gallery choice).

    My point about the XML: Although I have never personally tried this, in theory at least it should be possible to get rid of unwanted multilevel lists by unpacking the word\numbering.xml part from the docx file, deleting the unwanted lists, and repacking the part back into the docx file.

    Of course, a VBA (or other) tool could be created to do this, but for more than half a decade now, I have just been wondering why Microsoft doesn't provide this in the interface.

    I hope that explains to you where I am coming from and what my intention was. Keep up the good work.

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  2. Stefan Blom 340.3K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2014-09-08T18:23:55+00:00

    Do the following to turn off numbering in your heading styles: In the Apply Styles pane (Ctrl+Shift+S), type in Heading 1 and click Modify. In the Modify Style dialog box, click Format, and then click Numbering. Click the "None" option and then click OK twice. Repeat the procedure for each heading level. This clears the numbering scheme (list template) completely from your headings.

    Note that the above procedure doesn't delete the list template from your document, though. To delete unused list templates, you can copy the whole document, minus the final paragraph mark, into a new document. To show/hide paragraph marks (¶) as well as other nonprinting marks, use the ¶ button on the Home tab.

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  3. Doug Robbins - MVP - Office Apps and Services 323K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2014-09-08T07:49:56+00:00

    You need to create Templates that have styles set up in them that a defined in the way that you want them

    See the article "How to create numbered headings or outline numbering in your Microsoft Word document" on the following page of the Late Shauna Kelly's website:

    http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html

    and some of the other information on that site.

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