thank you all and sorry for my late response i was totally booked, i figured out i just need to add the version number on the url
could it be because we have different CU levels 2016 CU 16 and Cu 18 on other servers
https://Mailbox01/ecp/?ExchClientVer=15.
also it seams to be a service issue as even the above url does not work sometime but that seams to be another case