Windows 10 Startmenu in Windows 11

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Windows 10 Startmenu in Windows 11

Erhan 65

Hey, I want to use the Windows 10 start menu in Windows 11, is there a way to do that, without using third party programs?

Anthony LAVABRE 1,905 Reputation points

2023-12-07T14:13:30.2266667+00:00
Hey,

You can try this :

Right-click on the taskbar and click Properties.

In the left column, click on the Start menu tab.

Click on Start menu style and select the Windows 10 option.

Expand the Position on screen list and select the At screen edge option

The Start menu has regained the appearance of that of Windows 10.

Can you tell me if it's good?

Thanks you
Erland Sommarskog 128.3K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator

2023-12-10T22:08:08.5833333+00:00

Anthony, it sounds to me that you have ExplorerPatcher installed. While ExplorerPatcher may be Erhan's best option, Erhan asked specifically for a solution without a third-party program.
Tired, Annoyed 25 Reputation points

2024-07-04T00:11:45.0366667+00:00

For anyone coming upon this page in your searches: There is no 1st party solution. Microsoft devs think they know better and have disabled grouping in the task bar. Download ExplorerPatcher and move on.
cheryl 0 Reputation points

2024-08-29T16:20:22.8133333+00:00

What about now? Is there still a solution? Since the last update of the explorer patcher I am not getting the windows 10 startmenu anymore.
ricrat51 25 Reputation points

2024-08-30T19:11:01.66+00:00

This worked for me

Use the pre-release here https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/releases

To get the installer

Scroll down to Assets assets and expand - download the appropriate installer

Read everything fully before installing
Cody Shive 10 Reputation points

2024-10-01T18:17:47.17+00:00

Why should anyone have to use a 3rd party hack, like ExplorerPatcher, to have the well-designed Start Menu that Windows 10 had? WHY?

Microsoft, WHY?

And you wonder why people move to Mac and Linux?

It's time to return the full, Windows 10 Start menu, where I can organize my favorite applications in groups, rather than hunt for them.

And STOP making arbitrary changes to the UI w/o allowing a classic view. Let your customers make that decision by offering them a new look, but don't force their hand. That's bad customer support.
ricrat51 25 Reputation points

2024-10-01T20:23:57.34+00:00

@Cody Shive

Many great religions have been founded to answer that question.

And the quest for the Holy Grail continues and the only answer found to your question

Microsoft, WHY
Because they can!!!
Meiere, Forrest T 5 Reputation points

2024-10-25T15:17:50.66+00:00

Totally silly. There is no "Options"; just 2 unrelated choices.
GUNDRY Ryan 5 Reputation points

2025-05-27T17:44:04.9666667+00:00

Download ExplorerPatch. You won't be sorry.
Benton L 5 Reputation points

2025-10-10T15:59:32.7433333+00:00

Shame we have to use third party apps to make the os do what it used to do. Basically what this does is run a config dialog that used to be easy to navigate to on your own, but MS wants total control. Unless you are a hacker you have no control unless the hacker writes a script like this one. I just ran it and the one that is not 64 worked for me.
https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/releases

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Anthony LAVABRE 1,905 Reputation points

2023-12-07T14:13:30.2266667+00:00

Hey,

You can try this :

Right-click on the taskbar and click Properties.

In the left column, click on the Start menu tab.

Click on Start menu style and select the Windows 10 option.

Expand the Position on screen list and select the At screen edge option

The Start menu has regained the appearance of that of Windows 10.

Can you tell me if it's good?

Thanks you
Erland Sommarskog 128.3K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator

2023-12-10T22:08:08.5833333+00:00

Anthony, it sounds to me that you have ExplorerPatcher installed. While ExplorerPatcher may be Erhan's best option, Erhan asked specifically for a solution without a third-party program.
Tired, Annoyed 25 Reputation points

2024-07-04T00:11:45.0366667+00:00

For anyone coming upon this page in your searches: There is no 1st party solution. Microsoft devs think they know better and have disabled grouping in the task bar. Download ExplorerPatcher and move on.
cheryl 0 Reputation points

2024-08-29T16:20:22.8133333+00:00

What about now? Is there still a solution? Since the last update of the explorer patcher I am not getting the windows 10 startmenu anymore.
ricrat51 25 Reputation points

2024-08-30T19:11:01.66+00:00

This worked for me

Use the pre-release here https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/releases

To get the installer

Scroll down to Assets assets and expand - download the appropriate installer

Read everything fully before installing
Cody Shive 10 Reputation points

2024-10-01T18:17:47.17+00:00

Why should anyone have to use a 3rd party hack, like ExplorerPatcher, to have the well-designed Start Menu that Windows 10 had? WHY?

Microsoft, WHY?

And you wonder why people move to Mac and Linux?

It's time to return the full, Windows 10 Start menu, where I can organize my favorite applications in groups, rather than hunt for them.

And STOP making arbitrary changes to the UI w/o allowing a classic view. Let your customers make that decision by offering them a new look, but don't force their hand. That's bad customer support.
ricrat51 25 Reputation points

2024-10-01T20:23:57.34+00:00

@Cody Shive

Many great religions have been founded to answer that question.

And the quest for the Holy Grail continues and the only answer found to your question

Microsoft, WHY
Because they can!!!
Meiere, Forrest T 5 Reputation points

2024-10-25T15:17:50.66+00:00

Totally silly. There is no "Options"; just 2 unrelated choices.
GUNDRY Ryan 5 Reputation points

2025-05-27T17:44:04.9666667+00:00

Download ExplorerPatch. You won't be sorry.
Benton L 5 Reputation points

2025-10-10T15:59:32.7433333+00:00

Shame we have to use third party apps to make the os do what it used to do. Basically what this does is run a config dialog that used to be easy to navigate to on your own, but MS wants total control. Unless you are a hacker you have no control unless the hacker writes a script like this one. I just ran it and the one that is not 64 worked for me.
https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/releases

Answer 1

Anonymous

Hello Erhan

Here is a way you can try, but it involves editing the registry, which can be risky if you are not careful. Here are the steps to do it:

Press Windows + R keys to open the Run dialog box. Type regedit and press Enter to open the Registry Editor.
Navigate to the following key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
Right-click on an empty space in the right pane and select New > DWORD (32-bit) Value. Name the new value Start_ShowClassicMode.
Double-click on the Start_ShowClassicMode value and change its data to 1. Click OK to save the change.
Restart your computer or sign out and sign back in to apply the change. You should now see the Windows 10 start menu in Windows 11.

Please Note: Editing the registry is risky, please back up your important data before editing.

Best Regards,

Hania Lian

Erhan 65 Reputation points

2023-12-08T10:09:30.07+00:00

Hey, I tried doing this, but nothing changed after the restart. I saw this trick in various Youtube videos, but apparently it does not work anymore.
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Anthony LAVABRE 1,905 Reputation points

2023-12-10T21:06:21.72+00:00

hey, what solution doesn't work for?
Andy Lemky 50 Reputation points

2024-02-11T20:52:59.8833333+00:00

I believe i tried this and all it really does is make the menu KINDA similar to the windows 10 one, but not quite the same. It's annoying when Microsoft comes out with these new features and stuff and removes the old one, the start menu is one of the worst changes in Windows 11(of the many horrible changes)
Ragnar Lodbrok 35 Reputation points

2024-02-17T10:49:26.5766667+00:00

@Andy Lemky I second that. Designers / Devs (?) lack the common sense when it comes to choosing between Newer and Better (old one in this case; don't fix or change something that isn't broken or bad).
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Michah cleary 5 Reputation points

2024-02-27T05:03:26.5533333+00:00

Not working for me as well. I will cvontinue to reserch. If i find anythjing ill drop it here. And if you dont mind, when you see this . If you have already solved plz share. TIA
Martin Pols 5 Reputation points

2024-02-28T17:27:23.83+00:00

I tried as well but for me, it doesn't work either...
Simon Aspray 0 Reputation points

2024-04-11T18:53:27.6433333+00:00

Try this explorer patcher:

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbFl2UTJTbzAxZEE0VF83QXhMWk1ZVGRkemthd3xBQ3Jtc0tudFNLeG1vWGYzUmxVd2lqWGpadnlHbEs3VTIxM1FTdUE0MFhGTTJHNzNGbXFhMll5SXFiTDh4TnU1UEk5bzdTT05HUjNsbkdQQVVORGsxYndDdEhFdE9QdnVOTjZhYm1MQy1jV2dHYlVldzh1b190QQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fvalinet%2FExplorerPatcher&v=4PTq5M9QKHo
crazyal01 10 Reputation points

2024-05-01T02:27:23.4433333+00:00

OK dunno where you got this solution but it does NOT work. I followed the exact steps and I still have a windows 11 start menu
crazyal01 10 Reputation points

2024-05-01T02:28:34.32+00:00

OK dunno where you got this solution but it does NOT work. I followed the exact steps and I still have a windows 11 start menu
ᚲᚺᚱᛁᛊ ᚾᛟᚱᚹᚨᛁ ᛈᚨᛚᛚᚨᛏᛁᚾᚨ 0 Reputation points

2024-08-22T20:33:30.3233333+00:00

This doesn’t work, it ended up doing nothing
Dimitri Domeneghetty 0 Reputation points

2024-09-09T19:22:27.9033333+00:00

that worked! without any third party app i have a functionnal windows 10 start menu IN windows 11! thank you hania Lian
ROBERT CLUCAS 0 Reputation points

2024-11-28T15:15:06.8133333+00:00

For step 4, is the value "1" Hexadecimal or Decimal?
Erland Sommarskog 128.3K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator

2024-11-28T21:47:38.0833333+00:00

Both. For all values 0-9, there is not difference between hexadecimal or decimal notation. :-)
G L 25 Reputation points

2025-01-03T21:09:34.05+00:00

Wow scariest URL I have seen in a long time. And no-thanks to micro$$$oft for all the CHANGE-FOR-NO-REASON.
Jes722 0 Reputation points

2025-02-24T22:42:34.0466667+00:00

Didnt work for me sadly!
Roderick Ketelaar | WilroffReitsma 0 Reputation points

2025-08-11T08:06:19.54+00:00

This might have worked in the past, but the current version 10.0.26100.4652 doesn't seem to do anything with this key
Benton L 5 Reputation points

2025-10-10T15:29:55.49+00:00

Microsoft is forgetting who 90% of their customer base is. Most of us have been using Windows since the beginning. The people who are using this are aging. Most of us Boomers, GenX, and Millennials. Basically 35 and up. I cant get any of my children to even touch a PC. They use phones, or the Chrome laptop they get from school. They refuse to use a PC. I bought them all laptops with 4080s and they still dont use them. The point is, there is nothing you are gonna change that's gonna get them on your platform unless they are forced to. How are we supposed to be able to help them if you keep changing our platform too. We don't learn new things like we used to, and they rely on us for old wisdom.

The older we get the harder it is to adapt to change. When I was younger I did not get it. Migrating from win xp to 7 was not so bad. Going for 7 to 8 or 10 was not fun. I just skipped them and stayed with 7 as long as I could. Windows 11 is about as bad as Vista. I have a laptop with win 11 for 2 years now and that's still horrible to navigate. If I wanted to learn a new Platform I would just get a MacBook. Now my main machine is win 11 and I hate it.

With every new OS you release there is this big change on doing things you have done for many years. Then you finally settle in one that is supposedly the "Last OS you will have to install" only to be forced to upgrade in the blink of an eye(a few years)

These changes hurt productivity. I am sure in 5 years or so we all will have to change os yet again doing the same productivity destroying process.

I hope so lead devs see this and keep this in mind before doing drastic changes on the next platform which I dread coming.

I really hate the start bar, and file explorer. Guess I am gonna load a third party app which I have not done since college. I am 46 now.
klauz josef outlook 0 Reputation points

2025-10-18T13:47:02.07+00:00

Hello There, but no Restarting from taskmgr.exe and inside there find explorer.exe and restart it and No It does not work.

Best Regards,

-josef klauz outlook
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