Will VS and Maui ever get a designer??

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Will VS and Maui ever get a designer??

Lloyd Sheen 1,486

Hot reload is anything but Hot. Sometimes it does something but more often than not it does not. Then I am to determine if the change I wanted didn't happen because Hot Reload just decided not to do anything or perhaps my change was no good.

VS is supposed to be a developer tool. That means that it has two main functions. One to create an app, this includes the editor and the build of the app. The second is testing / debugging. This second one is not very good for Maui. I can run the same build twice and have two different results (confusing). It also will just stop and that is it. No error indication, no error message just NOTHING! It will also sometimes stop and the place it "found" the error is not in my code. Most of the time I will just execute again and this time I will not get the error.

I have kids that I "teach" Maui and their main question is " why is Visual Studio so against us?"

Any one from MS like to answer this????

Bruce (SqlWork.com) 78,311 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator

2023-12-07T21:29:26.0966667+00:00

the Maui UI is probably its weakest link. It was a quick port of Xamarin forms, which is really dated library compared SwiftUI and JetPack. Replacing the UI does not appear to be in the immediate future.

building cross platform build chains is not easy. MS does not control with the android or IOS native libraries and build and debug tools, and must stay compatible.

I've used several mobile cross platform tools, and have always run into stability issues, especially around new releases. I expect Maui will become more stable over time.

Hot reload is a new feature with a lot of limitations. It should improve over time.

Note: I gave up on cross platform, and just code native. Swift & Kotlin are so similar, that porting code is not really an issue and UI dev is much easier with SwiftUI and Jetpack.

When dotnet can produce native libraries for Swift and Kotlin, it might be a good choice for sharing business logic between environments.
Lloyd Sheen 1,486 Reputation points

2023-12-07T21:54:18.7766667+00:00
I understand how complicated cross platform dev is but ---- there are things that are not complicated and the UI is simply terrible and MS is doing nothing about these types of problems and they have nothing to do with Maui.

Why is IsVisible a bool value (2 values) not a bool in the UI? Somehow in the XAML editor and the code editor when you reference it there is no intellisence for it. A while back I searched for how you would do that but of course there is nothing as it is only VS that does this.

When you open an XAML file and select a control to see it's properties nothing is selected. You have to select another control and then come back to the one you want to see. This is level of VS and it's editors which is "WE DON"T CARE ABOUT DEVELOPERS!!!!"

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Bruce (SqlWork.com) 78,311 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator

2023-12-07T21:29:26.0966667+00:00

the Maui UI is probably its weakest link. It was a quick port of Xamarin forms, which is really dated library compared SwiftUI and JetPack. Replacing the UI does not appear to be in the immediate future.

building cross platform build chains is not easy. MS does not control with the android or IOS native libraries and build and debug tools, and must stay compatible.

I've used several mobile cross platform tools, and have always run into stability issues, especially around new releases. I expect Maui will become more stable over time.

Hot reload is a new feature with a lot of limitations. It should improve over time.

Note: I gave up on cross platform, and just code native. Swift & Kotlin are so similar, that porting code is not really an issue and UI dev is much easier with SwiftUI and Jetpack.

When dotnet can produce native libraries for Swift and Kotlin, it might be a good choice for sharing business logic between environments.
Lloyd Sheen 1,486 Reputation points

2023-12-07T21:54:18.7766667+00:00

I understand how complicated cross platform dev is but ---- there are things that are not complicated and the UI is simply terrible and MS is doing nothing about these types of problems and they have nothing to do with Maui.

Why is IsVisible a bool value (2 values) not a bool in the UI? Somehow in the XAML editor and the code editor when you reference it there is no intellisence for it. A while back I searched for how you would do that but of course there is nothing as it is only VS that does this.

When you open an XAML file and select a control to see it's properties nothing is selected. You have to select another control and then come back to the one you want to see. This is level of VS and it's editors which is "WE DON"T CARE ABOUT DEVELOPERS!!!!"

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