Repeat Header Rows in Word won't repeat!

Anonymous
2022-04-22T03:39:05+00:00

Hi all,

I have the most annoying problem where I cannot use Repeat Header Rows.

I have read every post on this topic and have tried all the suggestions.

That being said, I think I have discovered why I have this problem and would like to pick the brains of anyone out there who had encountered the same problem.

Here goes:

I am writing a user manual that is essentially a series of two-column tables: a narrow left column with the topic title and a wider right column with the body text. The right column often contains step-action tables that invariably spread to the next page. The header row will not repeat itself on the next page.

I suspect this problem is because the table is a table within a table. If this is correct (confirmation welcome), is there a trick that will get around this (guidance even more welcome).

Here's a screen capture that shows the structure described above.

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment on the above.

Sharon R.

Microsoft 365 and Office | Word | Other | Windows

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  1. Anonymous
    2022-04-23T10:06:00+00:00

    Hello , SharonRoffey

    Welcome to Microsoft Community and appreciate your time taken for sharing detailed information. I understand that Repeat Header Rows in Word won't repeat the header. I know this is not convenient for you.

    I tested Repeat Header Rows in Word according to your description and encountered the same problem as you. As you can guess, the reason is indeed that the table is a table within a table. If you still want to design the layout like this, Repeat Header Rows will never be effective, unfortunately. Also, although Word automatically repeats table headers on new pages that result from automatic page breaks, it does not repeat a header if you insert a manual page break within a table.

    So I suggest you to change the layout, don't nest one table inside another table, so that similar problems won't happen again. Or the less effective way is to input the header word by word on each page.

    For more information about repeating head rows, please refer to: Repeat table header on subsequent pages (microsoft.com)

    Feel free to post back if you have any additional questions.

    Best Regard,

    Yuhao Li| Microsoft Community Support Specialist

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  2. Anonymous
    2022-04-24T23:20:15+00:00

    Dear Yuhao Li,

    Thank you for your reply and for confirming my suspicions about nested table behaviour.

    What is really annoying is that I am allowed to select Repeat Header Row in a nested table. There doesn't seem to be any logical reason for it not to work. If, as we now know, this function doesn't work in a nested table, then it doesn't make any sense that it can be selected.

    I will have no choice but to add the repeating row manually. Of course, this can only be done at the very final stages as it's likely to cause a mess with ongoing edits.

    Best,

    Sharon

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  3. Doug Robbins - MVP - Office Apps and Services 322.1K Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2022-04-25T03:47:49+00:00

    It is probably possible to achieve the required layout without using a table within a table.

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  4. Anonymous
    2022-04-25T04:01:06+00:00

    As Doug says, you can probably get the layout you want without nested tables.

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    If you share an example file of several pages showing your layout before and after the nested table we may be able suggest how to restructure your document. An outside perspective, and our experience with Word may suggest alternate approaches that you do not see.

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    You can either use the =rand() function to generate random filler text or use the macro I provide in the following article that randomizes the existing text in a way that cannot be reverse engineered.

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    Upload Example - Share via “Personal” OneDrive File

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  5. Anonymous
    2022-04-25T05:10:02+00:00

    Hi Doug and Rohnski2,

    Thank you for following through on this. I actually have another way of achieving the same layout, one that I used for a 240-page document back in 2018. I was a bit gung-ho on this latest document and went into full table mode without thinking ahead (never occurred to me that nested tables would have restrictions).

    The method I used before was a document with a 2.5in margin for the body of the document and I used text-box-to-frame for the headings in the white space on the left.

    Ideally, I should reorganize the document, but I am on a very tight delivery deadline. For now, I will use Section Breaks for the 'offending' tables and follow the above method and then reorganize the document before I hand it over.

    Best,

    Sharon

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