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A Little More on RSS

I just wanted to post a quick follow up to Dean’s post about RSS in Longhorn.

My name is Sean Lyndersay, and I’m a senior program manager on the RSS team. After Dean’s announcement, we turned on our RSS Team Blog, and kicked things off with a post about the Simple List Extensions.

The RSS Team Blog will be the place to go for all things related to the RSS platform features in Longhorn. If the post has something to do with IE, then we’ll cross-post as appropriate.

The other great place for feedback is the Longhorn RSS wiki , hosted on Channel 9.

One more thing: During the Gnomedex keynote (and the Channel 9 video), Dean and Amar showed a couple of sample applications which represent some ideas we have about how developers can use the RSS platform capabilities to enable new scenarios. The point I want to make is that these demos do not represent product plans. They were just ideas that the RSS team cooked up to show the value of the platform.

So, for all your IE information, keep an eye on this blog. For more RSS information, keep an eye on the RSS team blog.

- Sean

PS. Dean’s last name is Hachamovitch – seems like a lot of news outlets got this wrong. Dean is accustomed to people getting his last name wrong, but I thought I’d just point it out.

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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    The expected release date of IE 7 was the first part of this summer, when does the first part of summer end? Has there been a formal date set for the release of IE 7?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    More blogs to read, cool.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    First, excellent work with RSS. Have you guys decided on a date of the release of Internet Explorer beta 7 yet?? I know the summer but any word on the exact date yet? And if not can you already release it. . . Thanks :). . .

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    rock on sean :) looking forward to some very cool syndication features...

    paul.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Yeah I wonder what the release date is, like the other folks in here.

    Whatever the official plans are, please include the IDN support with the new release.

    Thanks for Listening,
    Matt

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    What RSS formats does will Longhorn support?
    “Longhorn” will support all common RSS formats, including: RSS 1.0, 2.0 and Atom 0.3. We will support Atom 1.0 when it’s released.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    According to the Joel on Software discussion board you're firing the Longhorn VP!

    Is this true? As a shareholder MSFT could do with trimming some fat.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    An RSS team blog does seem like way overkill for such a simple feature, it's good that you're thinking of ways to make better use of this technology but the whole point of RSS was that it's a really simple way of syndicating content so it can't be that difficult to implement. Atom is more advanced and hopefully you'll support that too.

    But one thing to be wary about of bringing RSS support to the masses is whether it'll bring loads of servers struggling under the load. Just imagine every longhorn user with an RSS feed polling popular sites every hour or so (I'd imagine you'd have at least one feed already subscribed to so that you can show off this technology to people on install).

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Give us please the Release date of the Internet Explorer 7 Beta :)

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Since Atom isn't a formal spec yet, I can't see any reason for IE to support it. Yet.

    It would be nice if the support was ready-to-go on day zero of Atom's finalization, though.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:48 PM Dean [MSFT] said:
    I wanted to recap the main themes I read in the comments and use them as a roadmap for the topics that we will post about over the next few weeks.

    3. Standards, standards, standards… say something!

    ----

    Well? It's been a lot of weeks. Isn't about time to make a token blog entry about it?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Comments haven't been appearing instantly until now because all of the MSDN blogs recently moved to a new server with updates to the underlying blog software. We had to reset some of our settings for how commenting works.

    Everything should be showing up immediately now. Please do remember to follow commenting guidelines. Abusive comments or ones with profanity will be deleted.

    Al Billings [MSFT]

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Wow, just think...if Microsoft deletes every single bad comment here, nothing will ever get fixed.

    Best regards,
    Willie Wilson <webmaster@codernet.net>

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Willie,

    We trust that users are adults who can behave as such. Swearing at Microsoft or the IE team, being abusive to other commenters here along with team members, etc. are clearly outside the realm of the acceptable.

    I think that we can understand that. If people are not able to abide by that, they can always go post in their own blogs and send trackbacks to our posts. Your blog is your own business but we expect people to be adults here.

    Al Billings [MSFT]

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    How do you do a trackback?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    CSS AND STANDARDS...
    Its about time you guys gave us updates on it.
    I believe, unless the rendering is fixed up, all the hoopla about RSS is in vain as many of us will keep exhorting our users to use more standards oriented browsers.

    And oh yes, When oh when will IE7 Beta be released?
    FYI, Summer's sunny days are already over here in India. Its rainy season here(Monsoon) and thats like a whole other season!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    It is good that Longhorn/IE will feature support for syndication formats, particularly if it will be supporting the more robust Atom format; however, I would argue that this feature is not nearly as important as support for W3C standards, many of which IE has little or no support for.

    PLEASE ensure that proper support for HTML, XHTML, CSS (and yes, much of CSS3 is ready for implementation), PNG, HTTP, SVG, and others are given priority over syndication technology that is already well-catered for by dozens of established services. Make IE the best browser ever before worrying about feeds.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Please get all the new people from Claria to join the IE team.

    After all, you seem to be hiring, and I'm sure you have a common set of values.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    LOL @ 7 of 8.

    I agree, a match made in heaven. You both deserve each other.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Why have the "Expert Zone" chat transcripts not been updated for the last 5 months?

    Too lazy to care? Don't tell me that you're all busy, I'm sure uploading a chat transcript needs 50 people to sign off but I'm sure you can afford it.

    And why don't you advertize the chats on your blog? Afraid some people with real questions might come and spoil your party?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Why is RSS such a big deal? RSS is Simple, that's the whole point. I can write a decent rss parcer in a couple of hours (and I have), and a nice API shouldn't take me more than a day, as long as I have a handle on the language I'm working with. I'm no rocket scientist and I'm sure the tool over at microsoft have more knowledge and experience than I do so please boast about some real featured.

    What I'm worried about is that IE7 is going to be all it's made up to be, that is IE6 + PNG + RSS. Dean Edward's IE7 was more sofisticated that that in just about every way. I'll probably be stuck using his scripts for at least a couple more years now.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Not long now until summer's over...

    You're obviously trying to 'pique' our interest by not giving a release date yet, but what you're probably doing is just p**sing off a whole bunch of folks...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    There's something I'm curious about, and perhaps one of the Internet Explorer team members could answer it...

    There has been lots said about RSS lately, rendering improvements and how IE7 will run on Windows XP Service Pack 2. But what about Windows Server 2003? Will there be an IE7 for that? How about an IE7 beta release for WS2003?

    I have a "testing ground" Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition system that I usually use to evaluate new software or service packs before applying them to any of the live computers...so destabilizing an important system wouldn't be a problem for me.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Hi UnexpectedBill,
    At http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/02/28/382054.aspx you'll se a post that confirms we plan to make IE7 available for Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1.
    As we get closer to beta we'll give more details of the beta and which platforms we'll the first beta will be available for. I know everyone is keen to see IE7 but I'm afraid we can't confirm a specific date quite yet.
    Thanks
    -Dave Massy [MSFT]

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    You guys posting here are aware that summer is a season with a start and an end date, right? How can summer "almost be over" (as it seems people are saying) if it started about ten days ago?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Yet more classic Massy spelling/grammar ;-)

    se

    which platforms we'll the first beta will be available for

    ?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    hmph,
    It's a trademark of my posts :)

    Thanks
    -Dave Massy [MSFT]

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    RSSCalendar.com has been using the enclosure tag of feeds to include VCal and ICal attachments for some time now. It works very well.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    It'd be unfair to blame the IE team for the MSN toolbar, they had nothing to do with it!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I hope this question is appropriate, but where are you from, Dean?..

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @svchost.exe
    This is a blog for the IE7 team, and whie they are all part of Microsoft, this is their space for commenting on IE7 and it's features. Holding them accountable for another team's development is like holding ambulance drivers responsible for a building burning down. They all work for the city right?

    @IE7/RSS team
    I'm curious how the RSS/Atom feeds will integrate into the IE7 browser. What kind of UI will you be setting up?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    HAHA

    u can sensor my comments all u like but u know there's a p.o.c. exploit publicly out there, deleting comments here wont make it go away!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Guys, please stop asking for a release date. I think microsoft find it rather embarrasing to give release dates and never meet them

    They said it would be released in summer. I know summer hasn't got long to go, but hey, there is always summer 2006 or 2007. Or maybe they meant the southern hemisphere summer. Microsoft have to wait for all teh new version from opera and firefox to be released, so they know what to put in beta 7

    Frankly it will have to be something amazing to get me to stop using Opera.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Why can't people stick to the subject. That´s RSS if you didn't get it...

    Why don't you discuss standards, CSS, JavaScript, MSN Toolbar and other stuff in other blog entries?

    It's gettig so tiresome to scroll through the page to look for interestin comments.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Tabs, RSS... as a web developer this really means nothing to me if I have to endure another round of broken CSS and JavaScript support.
    C'mon you guys, stop kidding around. The developer community is shifting to Firefox. We don't seriously care about tabs OR RSS (we have Firefox and Thunderbird for those respectively). Respect web standards or lose our respect. Period.
    Yeah, I agree with the previous post, Opera is an awesome browser; it comes with native SVG support! Woo hoo!

  • Anonymous
    April 30, 2006
    (I had to call this post something and given this pic, I couldn't resist...)


    (er, that's Attention...

  • Anonymous
    September 10, 2007
    PingBack from http://www.grantpalin.com/2005/07/01/ie7-longhorn-rss/

  • Anonymous
    June 07, 2009
    PingBack from http://greenteafatburner.info/story.php?id=1423