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Sunday, February 17, 2019 9:50 PM
In the process of learning how to add a Windows 10 computer to a network with computers running several other versions of Windows to include 2000, XP, and 7. Have always been in the habit of setting up a standard (non-administrator) account for myself to use for everything except administration. In that, most computer usage. Surprised to see that such a simple concept seems to have become hard to figure out on Windows 10.
What is NOT wanted as part of basic computer setup is any Microsoft accounts. No family members involved in this one but when needed in the past they simply got another different non-standard Windows user account. In that, this account definition needs to be confined to this computer and possibly others on the same local area (SMB) network. To the extent that Microsoft accounts might become desirable at some future time it will be addressed then but for now the only concern is how to add this new Windows 10 computer to an existing and pretty old fashioned Windows network.
How is this task done on Windows 10?
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Friday, February 22, 2019 9:47 PM ✅Answered
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When it is exatcly the same as it was since 15 years!
Yes I know very well how it's been done since NT. However, my "Computer Management" is as follows:
which sounds to me like it should explain why I'm asking.
Based on prior replies I have, now, been able to do it but "netplwiz", which I now see exists on Win7, is NOT something I ever used before. This was nothing like any past version of Windows that I've used which includes everything but Vista & 8.
Sunday, February 17, 2019 10:03 PM
I am using "Computer Management" - "Local Users and Groups" at least since Windows XP,
and still find it in Windows 10 1809.
What are you missing?
Sunday, February 17, 2019 10:30 PM
Or from Control Panel>User Accounts select Manage another account then Add a new account in PC settings.
Bill
Monday, February 18, 2019 1:38 AM
Another method:
Type run in search box and call out Run dialog, type netplwiz, Enter.
Under User tab, Click Add… button, follow the guide to create your local user.
Or under advanced tab, click Advanced, Users, right click and select New User… on the right side
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Monday, February 18, 2019 3:55 PM
Thanks for the advice. I've been accustomed to using the "User Accounts" selection on the Control Panel. The add new account dialogue asked for an email address and referred to what was being done as creating a Microsoft Account. All stuff that is strange to me (someone who has been using Windows for more than 20 years now).
As it happens, shortly after making this post, the subject computer entered a state where it can NO longer be successfully booted. Therefore, I won't be able to get back to work on the new user account matter until I can get that problem resolved. Will respond when that happens.
Tuesday, February 19, 2019 1:24 AM
About Boot issue, general methods are:
Remove all external devices during boot
Safe mode
Startup repair in WinRE
Rebuild BCD
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Wednesday, February 20, 2019 4:46 PM
When I do that it seems to take me out of the control panel dialogue and into something I've not seen on prior versions of Windows that is called "Family & other People". It is asking for a phone number or email address which are completely irrelevant to what I think I want to do. I certainly don't have such values on the other computers on my SMB network which I think need to know about this user. In that, I want to define a user that already exists on my Windows network on this computer.
Wednesday, February 20, 2019 4:50 PM
I am using "Computer Management" - "Local Users and Groups" at least since Windows XP,
and still find it in Windows 10 1809.
What are you missing?
My Computer Management has NO selection for anything like Users certainly not "Local Users and Groups".
Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:05 PM
on my system (please ignore the language):
Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:08 PM
It looks like this may be the answer. Sounds like what I want might be what is being called here a Local User and Microsoft doesn't want such being used. It looks more and more like Microsoft is being pushed by modern trends to want to know as much about every user as possible. I have no interest in being subjected to a business model that depends on that amount of privacy invasion. I'd choose to abandon Windows and Microsoft all together if that became necessary.
I was a bit alarmed when setting up this computer and more than half a dozen opt-in requests were presented for doing all manner of things that sound very much like agreeing to let Microsoft spy on me. Of course I have no idea how to find either the current state of these settings or some detailed explanation of what they do. If anyone knows how to do that I'd also like to know?
Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:13 PM
I did make the manufacturer supplied recovery media but this tends to be something that I'm very hesitant to use. Likewise with Windows RE. I have my own method of recovery which of course needed some revision for Windows 10. However, I did manage to make an image of the Windows partition prior to having any problem and then relearned how to use it for system recovery which seems to have accomplished the objective.
Wednesday, February 20, 2019 6:05 PM
The way to create local user accounts by Computer Management Console is the same as it was in Windows XP,
see: Giving a Windows XP account administrator rights
When I took some time I could probably even find a screenshot for Windows 2000 or Windows NT 4.
So I can't understand why you pretend there is something nefarious going on in Windows 10.
When it is exatcly the same as it was since 15 years!
Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:31 AM
Yes, Microsoft prefers Microsoft accounts but it is hardly rocket science to force it to create a local account. If all else fails, pull the Internet connection. It cannot create a Microsoft account without it, and will default to a local account.
Bill
Friday, February 22, 2019 10:11 PM
No, I wouldn't call it "rocket science" but it certainly is NOT straightforward and I do suspect that this was no accident.