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Thinking futures: Need a few BizTalk Server experts to come to town

Do you wake-up in the morning and create a few ports; run off to morning-tea while deployment occurs; throw together a few orchestrations in the afternoon and compose a business rule on your way out the door in the evening. Would you consider yourself to be a technical expert on BizTalk Server 2004. Do you have lots of good feedback and opinions on the product. I'm looking for a select group (n <10) of customers who are technical experts and fit this criteria to run some future ideas against in an appropriate forum (think customer driven development). If you are both capable, interested, and funded then drop me a line (you can do that from this blog) including your:

1. Hours of experience on BizTalk Server. Those who can't count this on their fingers and toes are probably good candidates.

2. Technologies inside BizTalk Server 2004 you are an expert in. (e.g. BAM, Rules, Single-Sign-On etc.)

3. Your 3 most important items of feedback on BizTalk Server 2004.

And I'll fill you in on the details if you fit the bill. Just to set expectations I've archived my mail box and expect to only accept a limited number of applicants.  Seeing as though this will live on my blog for a while please drop me a line before June 15th.

Comments

  • Anonymous
    June 08, 2004
    Scott,

    This is probably not the forum, but you guys need to create a webcast for newbies. If you look at all the BizTalk server webcasts, they all cater to the higher end crowd. Thus, lack of "experts" out there.

  • Anonymous
    June 08, 2004
    Did you check out the MSDN TV: Building your first business process or the MS.COM web cast Getting up to speed with BTS 2004? If so where did they fall short for you?

  • Anonymous
    June 08, 2004
    Just wanted to say that the MSDN TV webcast was great and I am eagerly awaiting the delivery of MS Biz Server 2004 Developer's Guide.

    I'm not an expert in Biztalk yet but with some hard work over the coming month I will hopefully be in a position to work with you in the future.

    Regards
    Steve
    s.newton@rhi.net

  • Anonymous
    June 09, 2004
    Yes, I'm looking forward to the book as well! It appears to have been delayed for a while though?

  • Anonymous
    June 09, 2004
    Its getting really close a few weeks of writing and then publishing time. Sorry for the delay I hope its worth it. Lots of people (many SMEs) are involved.

  • Anonymous
    June 10, 2004
    Scott,
    I am currently working with BTS 2004 to inegrate our ERP to our web site.I definitely am interested, I do not know what you mean by funded but I guess I am. Here is the info you asked for.
    1. Cannot tell in hours but, I have been working on it since its release. definitely more than a 100 hours.

    2. Working on Biztalk Messaging,Orchestration,Rules,Mapper etc.

    3.1 Integration into VS.NET is cool!
    3.2 Like the SQL adapter
    3.3 I think it could be improved to by exapnding on the polling service.

    If you have any questions or would like to contact me, send me an email at:

    dinakar.manchiraju@tbg.riogrande.com

    Thanks,
    Dinakar.

  • Anonymous
    June 11, 2004
    Hi Scott:

    If °funded° means MS wants free advice and feedback to figure out how to improve the product at the expense of someone else's time, then I think you should reconsider your offer and think of something a little more mutually beneficial. As you say, BizTalk is the biggest C program written so far on the planet. Great. Congratulations. Live up to the expectations then. Are you having budget problems? That would be hard to believe. Innovation doesn't usually happen without blood, sweat and tears -- only a few fortunate people on this earth can afford to just give that away. Maybe I misunderstand your terminology.

    Regards,
    Panchy

  • Anonymous
    June 11, 2004
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  • Anonymous
    June 13, 2004
    Scott, I sent you an email on this (via your Contact link - should I have posted my reply here?

  • Anonymous
    June 28, 2004
    Scott,

    I've been working for more than 10 years on rule based systems, and specially on rule representation formats like Decision Tables, or Decision Trees.

    I started a little blog on the Rules part inside BizTalk. I called it BizKnowledge.
    http://bizknowledge.blogspot.com/2004/05/power-to-business-expert.html
    <a href="http://bizknowledge.blogspot.com/2004/05/power-to-business-expert.html"> BizKnowledge</a>

    Things what surprissed me the most is that the rule editor is still too technical for the business expert. Does he really care if a business term is defined in a database or in an xml schema? Should that not be decoupled from expressing the business logic.

    And what is up with the debugger? traces? I'm a technical person, but what is offered by BizTalk is swahili to me. It really does not make sense at all. How do I know if a rule fired, how can I see if a rule contradicts another rule. The generated trace might give a clue to sherlock homes, but hey we are dealing here with business people, non IT people.
    So even if it start making sense to me. I don't think I would be normally be the one who would write the rules.

    I also find it very good to put the responsibility of the business logic as close to the business experts as possible (eliminating the Knowledge Elicitation process) but in order to do so, you need much better tool support.

    I really like the orchestration and the ability to define your own ports, great stuff. But the rule policies are at the moment very limited and has a lot of room to grow.

    I hope to submit some really interesting stuff for the BizTalk competition, but I don't know yet if I can find a place to host my BizTalk SO Architecture.

    Regards,

    Marco Ensing
    l.a.marco (at) sbcglobal . net

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