Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4 Beta 1 ships!

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05/18/2009

Today, we are releasing Beta 1 of Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4. If you are a MSDN subscriber, you can download the Beta today from here. For the rest of the world, the Beta will be publicly available on Wednesday.

Over the last many months I had blogged about a lot of new and interesting features that are in VS 2010 and .NET 4. You can see those features and many more in Beta 1. We have more work to do in terms of finishing up the feature work for some of the scenarios and getting to the right levels of quality and performance, but we have made enough progress that we wanted to start getting your feedback.

As with any software development process, getting customer feedback in a timely manner helps us make better products. We are looking forward to hearing your feedback on this beta.

To find out how to download the beta and where to share your feedback, please visit the Visual Studio 2010 Product Page.

Namaste!

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Anonymous
May 17, 2009
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Anonymous
May 18, 2009
When I click on the link, I am getting a "Your search did not match any products." I access MSDN via the BizSpark program. I've noticed in the past that sometimes folks forget to make betas available for BizSpark. Did that perhaps happen this time, or is there a more general issue?
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hello Soma! Thanks to you and your team for all your hard work! I am an MSDN subscriber (BizSpark), could you please confirm that the beta will be avialalbe today for BizSpark subscribers? Kindness, Dan Elliott
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi Soma! i'm an MSDN BizSpark subscriver too, but i can't see it on available downloads, it will be available today? Thanks
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi Soma, will VS 2010 support Edit & Continue on x64 machines?
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
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Anonymous
May 18, 2009
MSDN downloads will be available at 10AM PDT. You guys are just a little too eager...check back in a few hours.
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi All, We apparently got a little ahead of ourselves here and this posted before the bits are live on MSDN. Our aim is to have them live shortly so please wait till around 1000 PST before checking the MSDN links. I'll post back here once I know the bits are live. Thanks, Tony Goodhew Developer Division Microsoft Corp.
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
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Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Somasegar (VP in charge of DevDiv) has just blogged that Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1 has been released
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
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Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Thank you for your patience. We're now live on MSDN. You can get the following products <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/downloads/default.aspx?pv=18:370">here</a> Visual Studio 2010 Professional Beta 1 (x86) - (English) Visual Studio Team Foundation Server 2010 Beta 1 (x86) - (English) Visual Studio Team System 2010 Team Suite Beta 1 (x86) - (English) Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Remote Debugger Beta 1 (x86 and x64) - (English) Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 Beta 1 (ia64, x86 and x64) - (English) Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 Client Profile Beta 1 (x86 and x64) - (English) Team System 2010 Test Load Agent Beta 1 (x86) - (English) Visual Studio Test Load Agent Controller 1 (x86) - (English) Thanks, Tony Goodhew Developer Division Microsoft Corp
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
If you haven’t seen Soma’s blog we have just released Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4 Beta 1 to the
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
You've been kicked (a good thing) - Trackback from DotNetKicks.com
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
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Anonymous
May 18, 2009
I know…for all of you who came up to our booths at TechEd 2009 last week, why didn’t we say something?
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Is there a readme somewhere, with gotchas and known bugs? Does this work without troubles with .NET 3.5 and VS 2008?
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Go grab your copy from MSDN downloads for subscribers . General public will get it in a couple of days
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Soma, senior VP of the Developer Division, just announced on his blog that today we are releasing Beta
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Can I install VS 2010 Beta 1 on the same machine I have VS 2008 without any problems?
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4 Beta 1 ships!
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Is there an x64 version of vstudio? Didn't see it in the list. Will the x86 work on x64? Thanks, George
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Soma vient de l’annoncer : la Beta1 de VS 2010 est disponible. Vous pouvez la télécharger ici .
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4 Beta 1 ships!
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
ASP.NET MVC For Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
According to Somasegar’s blog, VS2010 and .NET 4 is available to download for MSDN subscribers . Downloading
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Won't install on my XP machine :-( Get a message that The .NET Framework version 4 cannot be installed because the .NET Framework version 1.0 is already installed on your computer. Nice!
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi George, We don't have a x64 version of Visual Studio. The x86 version should work on x64. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Today Soma announced that VS 2010 and .Net FX 4 Beta 1 has shipped. If you are a MSDN/Technet subscriber
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Today Soma announced that VS 2010 and .Net FX 4 Beta 1 is available to MSDN and Technet subscribers .
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Today Soma announced that VS 2010 and .Net FX 4 Beta 1 has shipped. If you are a MSDN/Technet subscriber
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1 (Professional, Suite and Team Foundation Server) is available today to MSDN
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi Sebastian/Daniel, If you are a BizSpark MSDN subscriber, you should be able to access the download link for VS 2010 and .NET FX 4.0 beta1 today. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
i am not a MSDN subscriber ,i want to download vs2010 beta1 ,how to get it ? can somebody share your download playingapi@hotmail.com
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi vs, As a non-MSDN subscriber, you will be able to get access to VS 2010 Beta 1 on Wednesday this week. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi Sascha, Yes - with VS 2010, we do support Edit and Continue on x64 machines. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi Jason, We have a known issue with Side-by-Side between .NET 1.0 and .NET 4.0. If you had a later version (.NET 2.0 or higher), side-by-side works. The team is looking at what it would take to fix this post Beta1. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Its been a while since I have had a chance to update so I’ve got a few things I haven’t had time to post
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
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Anonymous
May 18, 2009
But no Edit & Continue when compiling to x64. And no Edit & Continue when using linq.
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
In case you missed it (which I don’t believe), today we released Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1 to MSDN subscribers.
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Beta 1 for TFS 2010, along with VS and VSTS, is now available to MSDN subscribers and will be available
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4 Beta 1 ships!
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Hi Soma. Great job. It is already running in my machine. But Blend 3 Preview is unable to open it files. When will a new version of blend be released ? Thanks Gustavo
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
If you haven't heard the news already, Microsoft announced the release of Beta 1 of the next major
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Publicación del inglés original , lunes, 18 de mayo de 2009 a las 11:15 PST por Somasegar Hoy publicamos
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Visual Studio 2010和.NET 4.0的Beta 1已经可以通过MSDN订阅下载了。周三公开下载。
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
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Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Here is the original link： http://blogs.msdn.com/charles_sterling/archive/2009/05/18/visual-studio-2010-and-net-fx-4-beta1-forums-now-live.aspx Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4 Beta1 Forums –Now Live
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Χθες ανακοινώθηκε στο blog του Somasegar ότι είναι πλέον διαθέσιμη η έκδοση Beta 1 του Visual Studio
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
Somasegar’s blog posting announcing Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4 Beta 1 ships!   Visual Studio
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
As announced on Soma’s blog , Visual Studio 2010 and .NET 4 Beta 1 was made available for download to
Anonymous
May 18, 2009
As announced on Soma’s blog , Visual Studio 2010 and .NET 4 Beta 1 was made available for download to
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Hi Soma, When will be available public robust release of 4.0? Should I start to move my website to this beta? Orif.
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Hi Soma, Congratulations on the beta release! Is VS.NET 2010 beta 1 supported on Windows 7 RC? Tom
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Today, we have released Beta 1 , and it is now available for download. We encourage customers and partners
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
We have recently announced the availability for Team Foundation Server 2010 Beta1, which also includes
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
As you may know yesterday Microsoft released VS2010 Beta 1 to MSDN Subscribers. The Beta will also be
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Are you (is anybody) aware of any compatibility issues at the moment that would prevent running VS2008 and VS2010 side by side on Vista?
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Hi Orif, As we get feedback from our customers and look at what we need to do to finish up the feature work and make the right levels of progress on performance and quality, we will have a better idea for when the final release of .NET 4 will happen. For now, I would encourage you to try the beta and let us know any feedback that you have. At a later date, we will have a Go Live version of .NET 4 and you can decide then if you want to move your web site to .NET 4 then or wait a little longer. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Hi, There have been a number of questions related to side by side between VS 2008 and VS 2010, any known gotchas, system requirements, etc. Here are the links to the readme files for both VS 2010 and .NET FX 4 that provides you with some of this information: • VS: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=143397 • .NET: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=143398 Hope this helps. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Today, Microsoft launched Visual Studio 2010 and .Net FX 4 Beta 1 . This is available to the MSDN subscribers
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Hi Tom, Thanks. Yes, VS 2010 Beta 1 runs on Windows 7 RC. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Sasha/Enrico: Just to clarify the situation, Edit & Continue is certainly supported on a 64-bit machine, provided that you are debugging a 32-bit process. Unfortunately, the necessary CLR work to enable Edit & Continue on 64-bit processes will not be implemented for Visual Studio 2010, though it will be in a future release of Visual Studio. With Visual Studio 2008, the situation is especially problematic because the default for new projects is "Any CPU." When an executable assembly is compiled with a target platform of Any CPU, it runs as a 32-bit process on 32-bit OSes and as a 64-bit process on 64-bit OSes. Thus, if you create a new project with VS 2008 on a 64-bit OS, you cannot Edit & Continue unless you specifically change the Target Platform for the project to "x86." In Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1, new projects are "x86" by default. This enables Edit & Continue even if you are developing on a 64-bit OS, and it helps to alleviate some of the pain "Any CPU" has caused customers writing P/Invoke code. We're very interested any feedback that you might have on this change to defaults. Please feel free to email me directly at dustinca@microsoft.com. Kind Regards, Dustin Campbell Program Manager Visual Studio Languages
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Enrico: I wanted to follow up separately on your question about Edit & Continue and LINQ. Unfortunately, Edit & Continue will still not be supported on LINQ expressions in Visual Studio 2010. It turns out that this is pretty tricky to get right, and we're planning to tackle the problem post-Visual Studio 2010. Look for it in a future release. Kind Regards, Dustin Campbell Program Manager Visual Studio Languages
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
This is great! Can't wait to download tomorrow. Will the SharePoint tooling in VS 2010 include Silverlight development tools? If so, are there any links of examples on how to create webparts and/or User Controls to include in SharePoint projects? Thanks and good job team.
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Krīze un ekonomiskā situācija Latvijā un pasaulē neietekmē aizokeāna censoņu tempus laist klajā ar vien
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Krīze un ekonomiskā situācija Latvijā un pasaulē neietekmē aizokeāna censoņu tempus laist klajā ar vien
Anonymous
May 19, 2009
Krīze un ekonomiskā situācija Latvijā un pasaulē neietekmē aizokeāna censoņu tempus laist klajā ar vien
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
Всем привет! Ну вот, наконец и свершился долгожданный момент: 2010 студия с 4 фреемворком уже доступны
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
The Beta 1 release of Visual Studio 2010, .NET Framework and Visual Studio Team Foundation Server Beta
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
The Beta 1 release of Visual Studio 2010, .NET Framework and Visual Studio Team Foundation Server Beta
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
The Beta 1 release of Visual Studio 2010, .NET Framework and Visual Studio Team Foundation Server Beta
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
I've just installed the beta. I was really looking forward to the WPF Ribbon control. However, I can't seem to find it. Is it included in the beta? Thanks.
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
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Anonymous
May 20, 2009
Quality and Microsoft products are two opposite words. Even in SQL Server 2008 I pin pointed a very serious bug in Query parser and asked about it in no. of forums (Even on Microsoft forums), but they even failed to address that bug in SQL Server 2008 SP1. I don't know why the Microsoft engineers don't sit back and think before writing the application softwares (Should learn from Google engineers) Soma, Don't block my comments just because I have criticized)
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
I’m going to diverge a bit off the VSTO path and talk about a more generic ClickOnce story.  If
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
As Soma announced on his blog earlier this week, Visual Studio 2010 beta 1 and the .NET Framework 4.0
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
La primer Beta pública de lo que será Visual Studio 2010 ya se encuentra disponible para su descarga:...
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
The first beta of the v4.0 .NET Framework is now available , and with it comes a lot of changes to the
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
Hi Shaggygi, Thanks. VS 2010 Beta 1 does not include Sharepoint Tools. We will make a beta of the sharepoint tools available later this year. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 20, 2009
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Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Good Job. Waiting for download to complete to get started! Are there any hands on labs available for VS 2010?
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Hi Gustavo, Currently, Expression Blend 3 preview will not work with VS 2010 projects that are targeting .NET4. However projects that target .NET 3.5 will work as expected with Expression Blend 3 Preview (as well as Expression Blend 2). An update to eh Expression Blend 3 preview that supports VS 2010 and .NET FX 4 projects is expected to be available later this Summer. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Soma, Thanks for reply. I had read in a few places that SharePoint tools would not be included in Beta 1. I was wanting to know if the SharePoint tools would also include Silverlight tools for developing instead of only ASP.NET in Beta 2/RTM release? Also now that VS 2010 and .NET 4 Beta 1 is release, can you give us a better timeline of when Blend 3 Beta 1 and SketchFlow will be release? Thanks again.
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
it seems there is no intellisense for c++/CLI projects:/
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Good Job on this release. I installed it yesterday and have been playing around with it a lot. I like the new UI (especially the ability to move code windows out of the IDE onto a second monitor). My only major concern about new UI is performance. I noticed a huge jump in resource requirements when upgrading a 30 project solution from 2008 to 2010. Almost double the memory requirement. Although, I like the WPF editor and it's features, I hope you can make it more responsive before RTM. It runs pretty pokey on a Core 2 Duo 6600 on Vista x86 with 3.25GB of RAM and FireMV 2250 video card.
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Now that .Net 4 Beta1 is out, you'll see a number of posts on this blog covering new CLR features in
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Is VS 2010 and .NET 4 going to have complete documentation at the release date? .NET 2.0 caused big problems for us since a large part of the BCL was not documented apart from placeholder documentation (like output from Reflector). Can this be complete when VS 2010 ships to production? Input parameter restrictions (e.g., must be an open file handle) and exceptions thrown were not in the documentation.
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
@Dustin Campbell FWIW, I think making x86 the default platform target is a terrible choice. This is just going to create headaches down the road when people who are writing MSIL pure code inadvertently start shipping x86-only modules to others. "corflags" to the rescue I guess... I think this setting unfairly penalizes the majority (MSIL-only coders) to compensate for poor training of the minority (PInvoke coders). I have already had to forcibly switch several new projects back to Any CPU mode after discovering they were x86 by default in VS 2010. Why not modify the C# & VB compilers to issue a warning when a project contains PInvokes to non-platform libraries and does not have its platform set to either x86 or x64?
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Hi Mike, There is a bunch of work on performance that the team is planning on doing between now and when we ship that should help. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Hi Shaggygi, As far as Sharepoint tools including SL support, the team understands this is an important scenario. We will be able to share more details about what we will enable when in the coming months. Also, as far as Expression Blend and SketchFlow goes, the teams are currently heads-down finishing up the development work. You will hear more about these in the next couple of months. Thanks. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
Hi Faiyaz, Here is a pointer to the training kit, which includes a number of hands-on labs. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9665216 -somasegar
Anonymous
May 21, 2009
You can take a look at the new v4.0 .NET Framework , and the changes that will be described in Shawn
Anonymous
May 22, 2009
Hi Soma, Congratulations to your team. This looks like a great product. I look forward to testing it very soon. -Minh Nguyen
Anonymous
May 22, 2009
Hi Greg, The plan is to have all the .NET 4 API be documented at RTM. After RTM, the documentation team will review customer feedback for areas where additional information is needed and work to enhance the documentation based on this. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 22, 2009
Thanks Minh for the kind words. Looking forward to the feedback. -somasegar
Anonymous
May 22, 2009
Last Monday we shipped Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1 and .NET Framework 4.0 Beta 1 to MSDN customers, and
Anonymous
May 24, 2009
Durante esta semana fue liberado oficialmente la versión Beta 1 de Visual Studio 2010 y .Net Framework
Anonymous
May 24, 2009
We released Beta 1 of Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4.  If you are a MSDN subscriber, you can download
Anonymous
May 25, 2009
Generally, VS10 Beta 1 does not worth beta name(especially compared with Windows 7). It's more like Alpha/CTP. Still, if MS does not release VS10 too early it is going to be a great product. I've installed it both on VMWare+XP and on laptop running W7 RC7100. Old Generic C++ Class Wizard does not create anything. Also, under Windows 7 RC 7100 I can not make simple MFC console app to hit any breakpoints even by calling ::DebugBreak() directly. UI is lagging a little bit (it's expected for WPF). New UI is not polished. Mix of native Win32 controls in dialogs with WPF controls looks really ugly, fonts look terrible. Rico's encantations apparently did not help and VS10 does consume memory a lot (but on small apps, maybe it is super-scalable for huge solutions). I think I won't bother compiling our 70MB of native C++ source code under that. I am not even sure it can upgrade projects with Smart Device Configurations: Windows CE development seems to be missing completely.
Anonymous
May 25, 2009
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May 25, 2009
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Anonymous
May 26, 2009
Hello, I am with the Mobile Development Team. I saw some comments about Smart Device Development in VS 2010 Beta 1. The current bits don't have Smart Device/ CE enabled. Our Team is absolutely committed to making Visual Studio a great development tool for the Mobile developer. For existing Visual Studio 2008 developers, we will be releasing a new Windows Mobile 6.5 emulator in the upcoming months that works with the Windows Mobile 6 SDK. This provides a great solution for existing developers. We will deliver Mobile device tooling for Visual Studio 2010 but we can’t share details at this time. Thanks Amit Chopra
Anonymous
May 26, 2009
Jeff Brown, danieldsmith, Thanks very much for your comments and the links to specific Connect bugs. We do realize that this is a very controversial change and one that we're definitely gathering feedback on this during the beta process to determine whether it's the right change or not. I should mention that we are already making a change for Beta 2 to default Class Library projects to Any CPU, so class libraries can be consumed in 32-bit and 64-bit processes without any change. Adding true support for Edit and Continue to the 64-bit version of the CLR is a fairly large work item, and other features were prioritized higher due to the fact that there is a reasonable workaround in most cases (i.e. target x86). However, as the Dev10 development cycle progressed, feedback about 64-bit EnC support (and other issues, such as PInvoke problems that I mentioned earlier) increased due to more users switching over to 64-bit OS's for development. Our expectation is that this trend will continue over the coming years, and cause even more pain for customers. Since doing the CLR work is extremely risky so late in the cycle, we opted to change the default target type to alleviate what we expect will be extremely serious pain in the next couple of years. We are absolutely committed to revisiting Edit & Continue in the next release to add 64-bit support and address other holes in that particular feature. However, changing the default to x86 isn't just to support Edit & Continue. There are many other customer pain issues that switching to x86 will address. Again, please feel free to email me directly at dustinca@microsoft.com if you want to discuss this change in depth. I am curious to know exactly what your scenarios are, and why you specifically prefer Any CPU over x86. Thanks! Dustin Campbell Program Manager Visual Studio Languages
Anonymous
May 26, 2009
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Anonymous
May 26, 2009
To someone that gets this error: "The .NET Framework version 4 cannot be installed because the .NET Framework version 1.0 is already installed on your computer" I followed these instructions and that worked for me: http://www.dotnetmafia.com/blogs/kylekelin/archive/2009/05/21/the-net-framework-version-4-cannot-be-installed-because-the-net-framework-version-1-0-is-already-installed-on-your-computer.aspx Hope it helps anyone :) Dirk, Netherlands
Anonymous
May 26, 2009
.NET Framework 4 Beta1 has now been released. Refer to the following annoucement -> Visual Studio
Anonymous
May 26, 2009
Hello Vyacheslav, "Also, under Windows 7 RC 7100 I can not make simple MFC console app to hit any breakpoints even by calling ::DebugBreak() directly." We tried the issue you mentioned above and failed to reproduce it. Does this reproduce for a Console C++ app and a Console C# app? I will be more than happy to work with you directly to track down the issue. Please feel free to email me directly at "aymans at microsoft dot com" Thanks,
Anonymous
May 26, 2009
Fix current tools before releasing new ones.
Anonymous
May 26, 2009
Can't debug on Windows 7, Visual Studio 2005, ASP.NEt 2.0! I don't care for visual studio 2010 right now.
Anonymous
May 26, 2009
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Anonymous
May 26, 2009
Hello Ayman Shoukry, I've filed a formal bug about C++ console app with MFC here: https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=458819 Regards, Vyacheslav
Anonymous
May 27, 2009
Hello Vyacheslav, Thanks for logging the issue. I was able to reproduce it and assigned it to the appropriate folks. As a workaround, try removing the entry point from the project properties. That is under propertieslinkeradvance. That worked for me. I will make sure after further investigation to post the appropriate workaround at the bug entry. Regards, Ayman Shoukry
Anonymous
May 27, 2009
Introduction Hopefully folks have seen Soma’s and Jason Zander ’s blogs announcing the availability
Anonymous
May 27, 2009
I finally decided to download and install Visual Studio 2010 and give it a try. The first thing I did was to generate a standard MDI application statically linked to the MFC: then I run the compiler and noticed that the Release executable (without using the new control bars, just the standard windows interfaces) is about 1300 Kb: about 4 times bigger than one created with VC++6.0 and VS2005 (300Kb and 430Kb respectively). There is no debuggin information in the executable. I noticed also the new UI has a slower redrawing performance compared to VC++ 6 IDE and VS2005: ie: I run VS2005 in a VMWare Player and it redraws faster than VS2010. Also I couldn't find anywhere the Class Wizard that was published as coming back to this release. I have Intel Core 2 Duo with 2 Gb of DRAM with nVidia GForce Graphics card and Windows XP+SP3 Pro Retail. I would appreciate if you can post your comments about how to fix the aforementioned problems. Thanks Marcel
Anonymous
May 27, 2009
Hello Vyacheslav, Regarding the other issue you mentioned: "Old Generic C++ Class Wizard does not create anything." We know about this issue and it has already been fixed in our internal builds. We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused you. Thanks Raman Sharma
Anonymous
May 27, 2009
Hello Marcel > I finally decided to download ... Thanks for taking the time to evaluate the beta and posting your feedback – we appreciate your efforts/feedback. > The first thing I did was to generate a ... The sizes you present are consistent with what we see ourselves for the “default demo” application (the “just click and build” scenario) when using MFC statically. Of course, we do want MFC binaries to be as “acceptable” as possible on many aspects; functionality, reliability, speed and size to name but a few. Can I ask a few questions: does the size of a “default demo” application, such as you describe above, concern you from the point of view of your “shipping” applications? Have you built your “shipping” applications with VS2010 yet? Do you ship your applications with MFC statically linked-in? This feedback would be very useful to us. If you like we can chat about this over email, my alias is damien (at Microsoft dot com.) > Also I couldn't find anywhere the Class Wizard... The Class Wizard has generated a lot of interest from our customers, just look at the number of times it is mentioned on this previous blog post http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2007/08/08/visual-c-futures.aspx for example. So we definitely hear that it is a much requested feature. All I can say at this point is that not all features are in beta 1 – so do not give up hope yet :-) Please let us know how you find the rest of your experience with the beta when you get a chance. Thanks Damien Visual C++
Anonymous
May 28, 2009
I downloaded and installed Visual Studio 2010 Team Suite Beta 1. After some time I decided to remove it. Removing went well, but after that MSVS 2008 (SP1) has stopped working! Required msvcr (t) 100.dll etc. We had to re-install MSVS 2010 Beta 1. How do I remove the Visual Studio 2010 that it should not be harmed my MSVS 2008? Thank you.
Anonymous
May 28, 2009
hi orange, I am sorry to hear that you've had some issues running Visual Studio 2008 SP1 after having installed and uninstalled Visual Studio 2010 Beta1. I would like to understand your situation more. Please collect your installation logs by following the steps on heaths' blog:http://go.microsoft.com/?LinkId=8967044 Then send me the vslogs.cab. Email to: aaronru at Microsoft dot com. Thanks Aaron Ruckman Visual Studio Deployment
Anonymous
May 29, 2009
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May 29, 2009
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Anonymous
June 07, 2009
Hi,soma: I want to know is it a free software for us to use?
Anonymous
June 07, 2009
Hi David, This is beta software and is available for all to download it and try it out. There is no cost involved for this. When we ship the final version of the product (or prior to that), pricepoints for the various SKUs will be announced then. -somasegar
Anonymous
June 09, 2009
Welcome to the 49th edition of Community Convergence. The big excitment of late has been the recent release
Anonymous
June 20, 2009
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Anonymous
June 22, 2009
Adrian, the Geneva Framework will ship as an out-of-band extension to the .NET 3.5 Framework as a web download in the second half of 2009. It will not be part of VS2010. Polita Paulus Developer Division Microsoft
Anonymous
July 21, 2009
Introducing such a topic you'd like to congratulate you've let us know
Anonymous
July 22, 2009
In VS 2008 .NET 3.5 encountered a substantial performance degregation with Workflow Foundation visual editor when droping more than 10 Activities. The problem exists in both Sequential Workflow or State Machine Workflow Editor. My Question: Does VS 2010 and .NET 4.0 addressed this performance issue?
Anonymous
July 22, 2009
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Anonymous
July 22, 2009
Hello Joe, Sorry you had such unacceptable experience. Some of the above issues specially concerning project conversion and performance are being looked upon now and we did lots of work there since the Beta1 timeframe. Nevertheless, I would be very much interested in trying some of the issues you faced and discussing them with you in more details. Could you please contact me directly at "aymans at microsoft dot com". I would love to try the issues you faced and make sure they are indeed fixed in our current internal builds. Thanks,
Anonymous
July 22, 2009
Hi Bruce, Regarding the performance of WF designer in .Net 3.5, we are very aware of the performance problems that exists with workflow more than about 50 activities and are working on fixing them in Dev 10. If you are encountering problems with just 10 activities I would like to know some more details so we take action quickly. Can you please share with us some more details of performance problems with just 10 activities? I would like to know which operations caused problems, were there any specific activities that caused the problems etc. I would really appreciate that and it will help us tremendously. Apart from this we have a new editor for new WF framework that we are releasing in .Net 4. In the new designer we have substantially higher level of performance. Just as a comparison in the new designer you should be able to work with sequential workflows of about 1000 activities very easily. Thanks for your feedback and looking forward to hearing back from you on the .Net 3.5 designer. Thanks Pravin Indurkar Thanks
Anonymous
July 23, 2009
Hi Pravin, Thanks for your response. I provided somewhat inaccurate number of 10 Activities when noticing the degradation in performance. The 10 Activities I was thinking about where the StateActivity. I am developing a State Machine Workflow application hosted in console based application exposing a WCF interface. So each StateActivity has 2 or 3 EventDrivenActivity and each contains 2 to 5 Sequential Activities (IfElseActivity, DelayActivity, CodeActivity, etc.) So when adding all those activities, which I didn't count, when sending the original message, will amount to more than 50 Activities. And that is inline with the number you provided in your response. In your response you indicated that the new editor for .NET 4.0 will handle 1000 Activities. My question, whether this number includes both State Machine Workflow and Sequential Workflow Activities. If the answer is yes, then it is well above the number that I need to utilize in my application, which is about 400 to 500 Activities. In .NET 3.5 noticed the degradation in performance, I noticed, in the WF editor when going between View Code Behind to View Designer. My current system is Core Duo with 4GB ram running Windows XP SP3. For best performance of WF editor, what hardware/software configuration would you recommend? Would OS 64bit will make a difference?
Anonymous
July 24, 2009
Hi Bruce, For the new workflow designer the 1000 activity workflow is a sequential workflow. We also are optimizing the free form designer which is the basis of flow chart designer that we are offering new. We are optimizing that also and our goal is that it can handle 500 activities easily with all of them connected. In terms of the degradation of the performance when doing a 'view code behind' and then comming back to the designer, I agree with you on the regression. In fact that is the regression that we are working on very actively and we will ensure that peformance on that is good. In terms of hardware/software requirements there is nothing required for the workflow designer in addition to the Visual Studio requirements. The standard configuration recommended for Visual Studio is sufficient for workflow designer also. Thanks for your response and please let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks Pravin Indurkar
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July 24, 2009
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Anonymous
July 31, 2009
Microsoft has to DO MORE to promote Silverlight by using it on their own websites - starting with msn videos, bing, maps, getting more partners to use it and not just use it for 1 odd page sitting as a side-kick page for a specialized purpose. (btw, maps on Bing have gotten worse than when it was Live maps in terms of performance and there has been NO UPDATE since a year!)
Anonymous
August 24, 2009

In regards to Joe question 7 - poor color scheme

I think what Joe means and what I noticed also is that Visual Studio 2010 shoulden´t force the blue color theme on developers there should be option to change color of the UI to maybe "black" or to a netural "grey" as blue isen´t everyones taste. I personally don´t want to spend my days looking at a blue UI i distracts my eyes when coding ;-) Just give us the option to tweak color of the WPF ui in Visual studio 2010 as WPF has such good customization options this shoulden´t be to big of a job right ? Best regards Nicklas

Anonymous
September 22, 2009
Re: default x86 platform "whether it's the right change or not" It's not.
Anonymous
October 13, 2009
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October 25, 2009
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Anonymous
October 26, 2009
Karl - Edit and continue is still supported in the product -- you should continue to see it in Beta 2. Dustin Campbell gives a good description of the current limitations with EnC in the comments above, but please feel free to follow-up with me at [karenliu at microsoft dot com] if you're not seeing any EnC support at all in the Beta. Thanks! Karen Liu
Anonymous
November 02, 2009
Hi, I cannot seem to get Visual Studio 2008 to create a new web site project using .net 4. Is this a supported feature of .net 4 or am I limited to creating .net 4 projects using Visual Studio 2010? thanks...pix
Anonymous
November 02, 2009
Pix Dancer, Visual Studio 2010 supports .NET 4 and earlier projects. Visual Studio 2008 supports .NET 3.5SP1 projects. Hope this helps, Polita Paulus Developer Division Microsoft
Anonymous
November 02, 2009
thanks for the quick response...don't understand why the VS team would limit VS2008 from using .NET 4, but...that said, VS2010 is pretty cool, so no big complaints...kudos to the VS team for the improvements on VS2010...pix
Anonymous
February 09, 2010
I using the beta version. However it can't biuld a 3.5 version application. I already have that installed with visual studio 2008. What should I do?
Anonymous
February 10, 2012
I really love reading your comments guys.I learn a lot from you. Thank you so much Regard, Day Traders

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