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Over on the Windows Blog, Scott Woodgate has given us a brief glance of Windows Virtual PC, which will be part of Windows 7. One of the most exciting features is the new “Windows XP mode” which is designed to help people with Windows XP applications as they move to Windows 7:
![WindowsVPC7_5F00_2_5F00_23127862[1]](https://msdntnarchive.z22.web.core.windows.net/media/TNBlogsFS/BlogFileStorage/blogs_msdn/virtual_pc_guy/WindowsLiveWriter/WindowsVirtualPCisComing_8674/WindowsVPC7_5F00_2_5F00_23127862%5B1%5D_2.png "WindowsVPC7_5F00_2_5F00_23127862[1]")
You can read about it here. Stay tuned for more details soon.
Cheers,
Ben
Comments
Anonymous
April 27, 2009
I hate these teasers! Looking forward to your detailed articles :-)Anonymous
April 27, 2009
I'm hoping that this is more than just Virtual PC with an XP VM installed. To really be useful, the integration with XP Mode would need to be more seamless than the typical VM ends up being. Storage synchronization and printer synchronization are major hurdles keeping the average user from utilizing a VM easily. "No, storing your document in MyDocuments didn't really store it on your MyDocuments folder, it stored it inside a virtual MyDocuments folder inside a virtual drive file and you can't really get at it from Windows Explorer." If Microsoft has ironed out these sorts of issues, then XP Mode will be fabulous! Could it also be a way to run DOS and 16 bit applications on x64 systems? I can't wait to hear more on this!Anonymous
April 28, 2009
It will be interesting to see how well integrated the applications will be with the host machine. It definitely looks like it's been done right with the hosted apps running on the host's screen instead of entire hosted desktop. I look forward to seeing this develop. In fact, I can see this really freeing Microsoft to finally start moving forward more freely without having to constantly worry about reverse compatibility. If an app needs Windows X and its glitches, instead of continuing to emulate them, just run it inside a Windows X VM - perhaps beside Windows Y and Windows Z VMs simultaneously! I can even see the day when even apps targeted for the current OS version are run inside VMs for security sandboxing purposes.Anonymous
April 28, 2009
Do you expect regular/ standard non IT pro users to understand how to use such option !!! Having dual operating systems on their machine just to be able to run legacy application that used to work with XP but not with Win7. Well, This is really adding complexity for standard users !! and also for IT Administrators to admin the host and the XP mode OS through GPO !!Anonymous
April 28, 2009
Tarek -> Hopefully this feature will eventually be as simple to use as setting the compatibility setting already available in Windows. However, we'll have to see what the first version looks like. If it is too kludgy, we will have to encourage MS towards a more ideal solution in the future.Anonymous
April 30, 2009
Ben, I see that Microsoft's Virtual PC website seems to have been been updated from the Virtual PC 2007 to the new Virtual PC beta release that is Windows 7 XPM content heavy. While looking at the features and comparisons pages I see lots of new/enhanced features are noted. Of note to me, USB support. Question: Is this new Virtual PC beta release only Windows 7 compatible? Or will it install on Vista and/or XP OS versions as well? I understand that the XPM feature wouldn't work without Windows 7, but might some of the other features? If Windows 7 only, are there any plans for additional Virtual PC release updates for XP/Vista compatible systems as well? Or will it be either the existing VPC 2007 or VPC (for Windows 7) moving forward? Thanks for any clarifications you could give on the different release versions of Virtual PC and OS support. Cheers. --Claus V.Anonymous
April 30, 2009
On the desktop, I think MS and others are missing the point. People don't virtualize 20 machines on their desktop... they virtualize one or two, and want them to perform as well as possible... especially for testing scenarios. While I appreciate the efforts on desktop virtualization in the forms of VPC, Vbox and VMW Workstation, they simply don't make enough use of the resources of my desktop machine... and I wind up turning to higher end solutions even for basic testing. Until a desktop option can use EVERY core & hyperthread of my i7 quad, dynamically use the RAM, x64 support, and route some video function (directx, opengl)... then it's just not a serious attempt at desktop virtualization. VMware workstation is the closest so far, but still so limited. So... two questions if you'll indulge me... Can we expect any of that from VirtualPC on WIndows 7? Can we expect Hyper-V support for more cores in vSMP, or any kind of real video support?Anonymous
May 01, 2009
hi, how can i run windows xp application in windows 7? with that application mode?Anonymous
May 01, 2009
Are there any plans to implement 3D hardware acceleration for the VM? This would be usefull for running games that use 3D and have compatibility issues with Vista/Windows 7 and need XP to run.Anonymous
May 01, 2009
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May 01, 2009
Will this new version of Virtual PC allow a x64 host to run x64 guests?Anonymous
May 01, 2009
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May 01, 2009
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May 01, 2009
I feel so disappointed about no 64bit guest support....VMWare even allow 64bit guest on 32bit host.... Do you know how VMWare guys laughing on me(I am supporting MS in my heart)? :-( My boss even asking me to remove all Virtual PC and install VMWare to our classroom PC!!! I don't think every software tester want to install Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V for testing 64bit applications. For training, it means all the classroom computers need to install Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V......it's too trouble for a training center to do so........ I hope MS can really explain why no 64bit guest OS support on client OS...Anonymous
May 01, 2009
It would be nice if Aero Snaps worked with windows that come out of a virtual pc.Anonymous
May 02, 2009
I also can't install Virtual PC 2007 SP1 on Windows 7 RC, are there any solutions for this problem?Anonymous
May 02, 2009
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May 03, 2009
I tested Virtual XP and got it running. It works well with an application installed in the virtual machine. But what to do with an application which does not need to be installed? How do you get this application to the Windows 7 Desktop?Anonymous
May 04, 2009
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May 04, 2009
Already got it working. Just add the application to the Virtual Windows XPs start menu.Anonymous
May 04, 2009
Hi, Can we expect a full GUI console where the virtual machines can be managed ?
- When i delete the virtual machine entry it does not remove all its related files
- When i boot a virtual machine, we don't see the full OS boot process.
- Anonymous
May 04, 2009
Hope you guys start talking soon. Personally, I found the new design somewhat disappointing. A chance to hear the thought process would either give an alternate point of view a chance to be heard or at least be the launching point for a lively public discussion. Starting points :
- I miss the host key for things like c-a-d and full-screen mode toggle. Any chance it will come back?
- Why was dragging in to and out of the VPC was dropped? Then we can eventually get to XP mode. I get why it is the way it is now, but there are definite some huge issues with its current design that will likely result in the product dying a quick and ugly death instead realizing its full potential.
Anonymous
May 05, 2009
Will this new version of Windows Virtual PC and Windows XP Mode play nicely with VMware Workstation? I would like to use Windows XP Mode to run our legacy Windows XP programs but I need VMware to run my development environment so that I can test the effects of clustering. Can all three run on the same machine without any issues?Anonymous
May 05, 2009
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May 05, 2009
I am so disappointed there's still no x64 guest support :( I was hoping to play around with x64 Exchange 2010 on my Windows 7 workstation while leaving my Hyper-V Exchange 2007 installation alone. Guess I'll have to use VMWare for that now...Anonymous
May 05, 2009
With Windows Virtual PC, Microsoft took Desktop Virtualization one step forward and two steps backwards!Anonymous
May 06, 2009
Ben, please take a look in this post: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprovirt/thread/8fa1b83d-90ca-449e-92aa-5b20fd82cf1b I hope you can know our comment and help us to get 64bit guest OS support on Desktop OS.Anonymous
May 06, 2009
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May 11, 2009
Ben, I appreciate the responses to the respondees, but I'm not sure you understood the point of my message. If application compatibility is all WVPC was targetting, that's fair enough, and no big leap of innovation. I personally think it could have been done much more simply and with far far far less overhead as a virtual application approach - so in that regard I consider it a poor solution, even if it is sufficient for the task. I can't imagine companies spending the time and money to roll out XPM except in the most gruesome of cases where they have no other choice. I could be wrong, but I sure can't see looking someone in the face and telling them to buy Windows 7 and still manage XPM as a step in the right direction. I will reserve final judgement on that, but I sure can't make a good justification for it at the moment. What I was hoping from WVPC was a competitor to VMWare workstation or VirtualBox, which are targetted toward actual desktop virtualization. VirtualBox may be the first to offer a true virtual machine experience at their current pace, as their next installment (2.5) integrates directx support and vSMP (though how many cores is still a big question). Does microsoft not view this as a worthwhile segment for a product? It would seem to me that they would want IT professionals and higher end users to use similar tools on the desktop as in their server environment. Having a Hyper-V desktop variant would go a long way to selling Hyper-V on the server side. WVPC is certainly no "Hyper-V workstation" and XPM/MED-V/APP-V are no ThinApp (though I have a little hope for App-V). Anyways, just thought I would clarify... and CONGRATULATIONS!!!Anonymous
May 13, 2009
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May 13, 2009
In terms of getting Windows 7 x64 Virtual PC to work on a standardized business system, I can report that it does not work on a VT-enabled Dell Optiplex 755- it reports that VT is not enabled when I attempt to launch a standard 32-bit Win2003 server running SQL. The system in question is equipped with a Core2 2.66GHz proc and 4G RAM, and is running at the latest BIOS revision. Anyone seen this yet?Anonymous
May 25, 2009
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