Acting on Feedback: IE9 Release Candidate Available for Download
The Release Candidate of Internet Explorer 9, available now at www.BeautyOfTheWeb.com in 40 languages, reflects our unique approach to building the best experience of the Web on Windows. IE9 also reflects a more open and transparent approach with its regular cadence of platform previews for developers and enthusiasts. With the Release Candidate, we’ve taken to heart over 17,000 pieces of feedback about IE9. You will find the product has made progress on all fronts—performance and standards, user experience, and safety and privacy.
We want to thank the millions of people who have installed and used Internet Explorer 9 during pre-release testing. The value of your feedback in developing the product is hard to overstate. The rest of this post highlights some of the changes made as we listened and acted directly on this feedback.
Performance & Standards: The Web Platform for Developers
The IE9 RC is faster with real world sites. In addition to making the script engine faster, we’ve improved and tuned the rest of the browser as well. You’ll find that Gmail, Office Web Applications, and many other sites are faster as a result of scenario tuning, network cache tuning, and new compiler optimizations. You’ll also find that the RC of IE9 often uses megabytes less memory than the beta because of changes like delayed image decoding. We’ve also improved the performance of things many people do every day, like find on page, and made improvements which extend battery life. In these videos you can see the performance improvements in the RC for text, layout, HTML5 canvas and video, illustrated through new demos on the IE9 test drive site:
IE9 RC supports additional emerging Web standards including CSS3 2D Transforms, HTML5 Geolocation and a set of HTML5 semantic elements. We’ve added support for the HTML5 canvas globalCompositeOperation property and improved the performance of canvas’s CanvasPixelArray. We’ve updated IE9 RC to reflect changes to the DOM events and added accessibility to the HTML5 audio and video controls. These additions reflect our pattern of implementing site ready HTML5 while ensuring developers can experiment with new and emerging specifications through our HTML5 Labs. As these specifications become stable, you can expect we will implement them in IE as we have throughout the development of IE9.
Implementing Web standards is just the start of our commitment to an interoperable Web and Same Markup. Comprehensive test suites developed through the standards bodies are crucial to making sure that browser vendors implement these standards consistently. With this Release Candidate we’ve added over a thousand new test cases for JavaScript and updated over fifty test cases based on community feedback. During IE9 development we have now submitted just under 4000 test cases in total for standards like HTML5. We have submitted these tests to the appropriate standards bodies for feedback and eventual inclusion in their official test suites. You can try them out for yourself at the IE Test Center.
| Web Standard | Number of Submitted Tests | Internet Explorer 9 RC | Mozilla Firefox 3.6.13 | Opera 11.01 | Apple Safari 5.0.3 | Google Chrome 9.0.597.84 | Internet Explorer 8 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| HTML5 | 111 | 99% | 50% | 61% | 60% | 77% | 0% |
| SVG 1.1 2nd edition | 70 | 100% | 76% | 94% | 84% | 89% | 0% |
| CSS3 | 134 | 100% | 59% | 76% | 71% | 75% | 10% |
| DOM | 127 | 100% | 93% | 82% | 84% | 89% | 6% |
| Navigation Timing | 10 | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% |
| Web Applications | 77 | 100% | 49% | 40% | 35% | 36% | 0% |
| JavaScript | 3413 | 100% | 47% | 47% | 86% | 89% | 6% |
User Experience: Site-Centric Browsing, Improved
With the RC, we’ve acted on thousands of pieces of feedback about how to improve IE9’s clean, site-centric design. Our IE9 beta telemetry data shows that 97% of sessions had 5 or fewer tabs open. At the same time, we care deeply about the other 3%. Many of you weren’t shy about sharing your ideas for how the browser could accommodate more tabs. We listened and we took your suggestions to heart. With the RC, you can put tabs on their own row taking advantage of the maximum available space for all your tabs:
Why is this change so important? You said so:
- “We want Tabs moved on to new line, NOT next to address bar… PLEASE LISTEN!!!!”
- “What others said: speed and UI is great, just need an option for advanced users to move tabs into separate row.”
- “being able to move the tabs below the address bar is a must for power users who open more tabs”
- “The standards support is pretty solid and I really do appreciate the hard work on that… Why are tabs not on a DEDICATED toolbar?”
- “Really not keen on the new arrangement of the tabs after the One Bar, either. For netbook users on resolutions like 1024 x 768 this is really going to hurt. Hope an option to "Display tabs on a separate line" is introduced later.”
Based on your feedback, we also made it much easier to refine search queries in the One Box. Based on your feedback, IE9’s download manager will now display the download speed, and download notifications are animated and more noticeable. Based on your feedback, pinned sites now support multiple home pages – “redefining awesome” according to this comment. With Paste & Navigate (Control-Shift-L), hardcore enthusiasts can save a step pasting into the address bar. We’ve reduced the number of pixels in the frame, and updated the visuals, making the active tab easier to identify, and made it easier to close inactive tabs. We acted on your feedback unless there was a clear pattern of inconsistency (for example, big back button is bad… no, it’s good). There’s a list at the end of this post of additional improvements, and we will detail them in future blog posts.
In hindsight, this comment from the original beta post was prescient:
- Tabs on same line as address bar! If this is believed to be the better way of doing things by yourselves then fine, leave it as defaullt but at least give us the option to move it around!!
- Download speed not shown in download dialog. ??? Not acceptable.
- Somebody said something about paste and go...it is indeed a useful feature. Can't be too hard to implement ;)
In this video you can see some of these changes that resulted from the feedback you provided:
In short, developers and enthusiasts gave us some great feedback on how we can make our site-centric design even better. We listened, we acted, and we want to thank you for your contribution.
Safety and Privacy: Trustworthy Browsing
On today’s Web, consumers are increasingly wary, often out of necessity. They face security risks like malicious sites and phishing scams. Even on sites consumers know and trust, bad things often happen. It’s easy to almost follow a bad link from a friend on Facebook, or become a victim of malvertising when a malicious advertisement appears on an otherwise trustworthy site.
Based on your feedback, we’ve made it easy to “turn off ActiveX” for all sites and then re-enable it, site by site, as you see fit. You can try IE9’s ActiveX Filter at the IETestDrive site here.
IE9 now includes Tracking Protection because consumers have become increasingly concerned about privacy. IE9 enables consumers to express their preference for privacy, and also gives consumers a mechanism to enforce specific aspects of that preference. Consumers can do this by choosing Tracking Protection Lists from organizations they trust. These lists can block and allow third-party content in order to control what information consumers share with sites as they browse the Web. By controlling the flow of information to sites, these Tracking Protection Lists help users protect their privacy. Unlike other solutions, IE9’s benefits users even if Web sites do not respect the user’s preference to not be tracked. The ability for a site to determine that the user has expressed a desire to not be tracked (by turning the feature on) is inherent in the design of Tracking Protection.
Today the first set of Tracking Protection Lists created by trusted organizations are now available on the Web. Adding a tracking protection list in the IE9 RC is as simple as clicking a link on a Web page. At this early stage we have linked to these Tracking Protection lists on the IE Test Drive site so consumers can find and try them and immediately enjoy a level of choice and control with respect to their online privacy that didn’t exist before today.
What’s Ahead
The Web is beautiful and powerful because of the developers and designers who build it. Enabling them to build rich and immersive sites that feel like native applications on your Windows 7 PC is at the heart of our approach with IE9. Here’s a video of how several influential members of this important community are talking about IE9:
The development process of IE9 has focused on building the best experience of the Web on Windows. Our approach to building a faster Web-browsing platform involves harnessing more of the PC’s hardware for Web pages. Our approach to Web standards and interoperability involves real-world developer scenarios and modern software engineering practices like comprehensive test suites. Our approach to designing a clean, site-centric Web browsing experience involves using everything available around the browser that people use regularly, so people can now pin sites to the Windows taskbar and Web sites can program taskbar jump lists. Our approach to building a safer, more trustworthy browser involves effective consumer protections from real-world risks, like programs they download or sites that might unexpectedly track them. All of these things taken together has resulted in the fastest adopted beta in IE history, with over 25 million downloads to date.
Over the next few weeks, we will continue to listen closely and carefully to feedback from the worldwide community about the Release Candidate. We appreciate the work that developers and IT professionals will do to test their sites and prepare for the final release that will come shortly. We will automatically update IE9 beta users to the IE9 RC. After the final release, we will automatically update IE9 RC users to the final build.
On behalf of the individuals and companies who have worked so hard with us to deliver this Release Candidate, and the many people at Microsoft who have built it, thank you for visiting www.BeautyOfTheWeb.com and trying IE9.
—Dean Hachamovitch, Corporate Vice President, Internet Explorer
P.S. Here’s the cheat sheet from the IE engineering team hallway for what’s new in the RC:
| Additions to IE9 between Beta and RC | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Performance | Standards & Platform | User Experience | Trustworthy Browsing |
| Elapsed Time
Large Working Set Reductions
Other Real-World
| CSS
DOM
HTML5
Compatibility View List
| Tabs
Frame
Notifications
Pinned Sites
| Tracking Protection ActiveX Filtering InPrivate
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February 10, 2010, 12:00 PM: Test Center Results and Additions to IE9 between Beta and RC tables converted from images to HTML tables.
Comments
Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Congrats!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Congratulations on the release! Very excited!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Thanks for tabs on a separate row, although there is still plenty of unused space in the title bar for them... Could you possibly allow full screen HTML5 video rendering? Shouldn't be that difficult...Anonymous
February 10, 2011
While you listened to some complaints, I still cannot disable font smoothing. Looking at smoothed fonts in web pages when all the other text on my system is crisp and sharp hurts my eyes as they work on focusing the font into sharpness which they simply cannot to due to font smoothing. Please give us an option to turn it of or even better respect my Windows 7 system settings where I disabled font smoothing.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Does GTA IV still crash with IE9 RC installed like it did with the beta?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
EIGHTH!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Actually, one more thing. Is Microsoft planning to implement a more silent update model like Google Chrome? I think a lot of web developers are wondering how we can escape the mistakes of IE6, one being that there wasn't a more streamlined update model. For Google Chrome, you really don't have to worry if people are on the latest version. Even a stronger model like Firefox would be great. Don't get me wrong, a lot of the additions to IE9 are exciting!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
dilbert.com crashes the tab every single time. pouet.net forum threads don't show images. RC? Uhm, probably not...Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I don't mind having the tabs below the OneBox, since I'm not yet comfortable with the tabs next to the OneBox, though I would prefer tabs on tab of the OneBox. I would also like the ability to hide/remove the Home and Favorites buttons since I use a Delicious bookmark (in my Favorites Bar) as my "home button" and also use the Favorites Bar. Otherwise, this looks like a solid release! Well done!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
And what about the spellchecker? Wouldn't be that hard to deploy the Live Mail one in IE.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Awesome release! Congrats! Here is some negative UI feedback:
- Back button is too cramped, add more pixels from the left.
- In download manager, the "Clear list" button is not the same size as "Close". Are you sure, that your sizing code works across languages.
- In Internet Options > Privacy the checkboxes are not evenly spaced. Are you sure, that your sizing code works across languages. And most importantly (at least for me):
- WHY WHY WHY! Why did you change the layout of tabs? Beta tabs were awesome! I hate the new layout, and I have to look at it all day. :( Here is some positive UI feedback: Redesign of menu bar, redesign of favorites, removal of ugly WinXP graphic from Internet Options, close inactive tabs, etc. etc. etc. Although point 4 is really an annoying issue for me, the release is still solid! :D
- Anonymous
February 10, 2011
- Firefox has a feature in about:config called "middlemouse.scrollbarPosition" which allows you to middle click on the scrollbar to jump to the exact position instead of paging to that position on a timer. Please implement this feature in IE9.
- I would like to pan around the page by middle click dragging the page with the mouse. Like the hand tool in acrobat / photoshop.
- I would like to zoom in and out of a page by scrolling the mouse wheel while holding the middle mouse button down. The zoom should be centered on where you clicked.
- Why is the titlebar blank?
Anonymous
February 10, 2011
hey it's gud then chorme and better than mozila firefoxAnonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
"Actually, one more thing. Is Microsoft planning to implement a more silent update model like Google Chrome?" Oh, please not! I am going to delete mshtml.dll manually, even if it will break the system to some extend, if they will ever do that. Silent updates are evil!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I wonder why are the release dates on ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/info/downloads/ two days ago...Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Moving menu bar to top no longer works. This was previously available with the registry key ITBar7Position. How do we do this?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Sunspider Firefox 3.6.13 753 Safari 5.0.3 310 Firefox 4.0 Beta 11 254 Chrome 10 Developer 248 Opera 11 240 Chrome 9 238 IE9 Release Candidate 209Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Actually, the tabs next to the OneBox look OK, I like it. Still, I would prefer all in their on location with tabs on top (because I use the Favorites Bar), the OneBox and Favorites Bar below. The Refresh and Stop buttons are way too small and cramped, I think they should be taken out the OneBox and made bigger. I like that the Favorites Bar is now flat and it doesn't look like the Explorer bar, which was too in the way. Stil no spel-chekr??Anonymous
February 10, 2011
We have pinned sites, which no one cares about and only works in Windows 7, but are still lacking text-shadow. Where are the priorities?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
To use the feeds efficiently in Ie, there's still a problem for those who can't use a mouse, for example, users of screen readers. There's currently no way in the list of subscribed feeds to quickly move to the feeds with new content using the keyboard. A suggestion is to introduce the keystroke ctrl+u to move to the next feed with new content - in a similar way to using this keystroke to move to the next unread message in an email program.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
As much as I want to like IE9, the inability to customize the new GUI will be the reason why I'll have to eventually move to Firefox or Chrome, unless a way is found to run IE9 with the IE8 GUI. Please make it possible to move around the toolbars and buttons freely. Or at least please have an option about moving the favorites star to the left of the tabs, as it was in IE8 - it was my favorite, and single most useful feature in all browsers out there, and now its gone. Yes, I know that it's available on the right corner, but that's just about the worst place you can put it to - I check my bookmarks extensively, as often as I have to press the back button on the browser. So it would be preferable to have it near the other most used controls, not next to the Internet Settings button, which I have to open maybe once a month. And, like many others, I'd like to have an option to completely disable font smoothing as well. IE9 RC handles font smoothing MUCH better than the last platform preview, and I'd probably use it all the time, but the point here is that some people just plain don't want this, and there is no OPTION to turn it off. Customizability is EXTREMELY important for browsers, and I wish the IE team would realize this!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Also, please revise the way the favorites toolbar looks - right now it's an ugly throwback in an otherwise pretty (if un-customizable) user interface!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
I'd have more faith in your test center results if you didn't knowingly have broken tests in there. See for example these bug reports: bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi Every single one of these has been reported to you months ago. Some of them more than once now. Yet you still insist on basing some sort of scores on these tests....Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I'd have more faith in your test center results if you didn't knowingly have broken tests in there. See for example these bug reports: bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi Every single one of these has been reported to you months ago. Some of them more than once now. Yet you still insist on basing some sort of scores on these tests....Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Hey guys, Does the RC currently support the HTML5 History API, and if not, are you planning to support it in the near future, or will it have to wait till IE10? Thanks.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I just tried testing IE9 on the Futuremark Peacekeeper browser benchmark site to see how it compared to the other browsers and lo and behold much to my NON-surprise, IE crashed on that site, twice in a row, whereas none of my other browsers have ever crashed on that site. IE, you don't get a second chance to make a first impression. Uninstall time and back to Chrome.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
I'd love the paste & navigate feature if I could set it to open in a new tab by default. "can't be too hard to implement ;-)"Anonymous
February 10, 2011
It is strange?? Ie9 is the only browserI who runs apple.com, so slow it is useless. Ie 9 has not made the plugin Quicktime working. When quicktime plugin is install apple.com is so slow it become useless. discussions.info.apple.com/thread.jspa Please Microsoft ie9 team, the Quicktime plugin is working perfect on all other browsers (Firefox, Opera, Safari, Chrome) There is no excuse for microsoft to blame Apple. Microsoft needs to make this highly wide spread Quicktime plugin working in Ie9 Many people rely on itunes, iphone from apple, so if Microsoft dont do something to solve the problem, people inkluding me will desplace ie9 and use Firefox instead Many thanksAnonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Thank you! Will IIE9 be part of the SP1 for Win7 and Server 2008 R2 that is going to be released Feb 16th?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
And yet you target only 30% of Windows users (Microsoft themselves always refer to NetApplications market share). The biggest and most painful for everyone issue remains that this browser does not run on Windows XP when the competition does. Microsoft could have very well produced a browser that runs on the extremely widely used OS but it chose not to for business reasons. I am a happy Chrome user now on whatever OS I use, Windows XP, Windows 7 or Vista. How much ever old WinXP is, it is under extended support and is the most widely used PC OS TODAY, XP 64 is just a year older than Vista yet you chose to not even support it.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Dear IE team, Congratulations for your fantastic work and listening to our feedback. IE9 RC rocks! There are only two issues left I have with the RC:
- The font rendering on many sites is still muddy. Verdana 8pt rendering has much impreved. However, on Facebook for example, the font rendering is really poor and is a pain in the eyes. I'm afraid that DirectWrite just doesn't reach ClearType quality at 96 dpi. IE9 definitely is a major step backward in overall font legibility! We now have the ClearType tuner in Windows 7 by default, but it's prettly useless regarding IE!
- Still no chance to make add-ons available in pinned sites mode. Please add at least an option "Enable add-ons" for a pinned site (it's OK when off by default, but please allow power users to use spell checkers, essential toolbars, etc. on demand). Thank you!
Anonymous
February 10, 2011
You guys added paste and go to the keyboard command so why not add it to the right click conterxt menu as well? Or is that harder now? :pAnonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Congratulations. I'm very happy you listened to the "3%" who voiced their concern about tabs.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Hi Dominic, You may wanted to visit Microsoft's HTML5 Labs that was referenced in the blog. We are very actively working with the W3C on many of the early and unstable specs, e.g. WebSockets & IndexedDB. By doing this in the HTML5 Labs sandbox rather than in the browser we believe can iterate much faster and provide timely feedback into the standards process, also we want to make sure that sites that are built on HTML5 standards and IE9 do not break as we update implementations. As an example, you will find the most recent implementations of WebSockets in the labs whereas it's taking more time for browsers to update and most are still on one of older specs. See here for example: blogs.msdn.com/.../the-updated-websockets-prototype.aspxAnonymous
February 10, 2011
great job. but you need to pick up the pace if you expect to compete against Google and stop the market share losses. the comment above about dilbert.com crashing the tab seems to be accurate (just tried it). Also had a glitch on the C9 video promoting some of the new features. For some reason I'm getting no audio (W764 IE64) even though it works on W764/IE-32 and Chrome. Strange.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
[ENTER] key doesn't work in Google Reader :( (to collapse items)Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Not only was ClearType not made optional in the RC, the (non-working) option to disable it has been removed, suggesting it won't become optional. Forcing ClearType on is a terrible solution. ClearType doesn't work on all screens or for all people, regardless of how much tuning you throw at it. I haven't even had IE9 running for 30 minutes yet, and I'm already experiencing eye pain and a headache. I'm going back to IE8, and I'm staying there until this is fixed. Here's hoping that'll be done before the final release.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Still no changes with the font rendering. It's still blur. Will this be EVER be fixed?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Well done. Very pleased overall with IE9 over IE6-IE8 shenanigans. Misleading to use Firefox 3.6 though in your tests when comparing it against your own RC. FF4 would be a more fair comparison, IMHO.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Congratulations on completing the release candidate! Downloading and installing right away :D However, the tabs should have been moved ABOVE the address bar, not under. That is just a silly choice. Move it above the task bar and you will be more "space-saving". Or you could have chosen to move all the controls a bit higher up so the field where the page title where before would be in use.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Does any body have an exmaple of where the font rendering is nog good. Or is it due to the hardware accelleration now mainly a hardware+hardwaredriver related issue which differs depending on what hardware you are usingAnonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Apple website still not working. Slowly, no CSS3 transitions, no HTML5 video.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@hAl, You can install the EasyPrivacy List from here: ie.microsoft.com/.../Default.htmlAnonymous
February 10, 2011
Great! Font smoothing is now acceptable. (Dilbert.com crashes on my system too...)Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Please tell me that the IE9 team did not stop at 95/100 on Acid3. I am afraid that even with all the other advances in IE9, all I'll hear about for the next 2 years from the MS Haters is how IE9 doesn't reach 100/100 on Acid3.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Please add CSS Transitions!!!!! Please add CSS Transitions!!!!! Please add CSS Transitions!!!!! Please add CSS Transitions!!!!! Please add CSS Transitions!!!!! Please?!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
also, I wish IE9 had page zooming that's per site and doesn't automatically magnify every site in every tabAnonymous
February 10, 2011
Still no option to turn of cleartype. Support it or I'll be finding myself another browser.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Greate release guys, really happy to see the "Tabs on a seperate row" feature implemented My only feedback for the RC is about the favourite bar and search bar, they dont actually look like they are part of ie or maybe theyre just a carry over from 8, ie9 looks clean shiny and new but theylook like theyve just been draged up from an old version with no thought to their lookAnonymous
February 10, 2011
@Joe Brinkman : The remaining points in Acid3 are related to SVG fonts, which are not supported by Firefox either. Moreover, Webkit and Opera only support it minimally, just enough to pass acid3. It's a deprecated feature to be replaced with WOFF. So basically, the test is wrong.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Oh, and I love the one bar, was one of the reasons i have been using chrome, whats the point of having two seperate boxes when one can do the job of both, cheers guys :)Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Congratulations on the RC it is looking great. But the font is still bad :-( I was really hoping that you had fixed that: connect.microsoft.com/.../font-rendering-is-worse-in-ie9-than-ie8Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Text-shadow still absent. Major ommision I thinkAnonymous
February 10, 2011
@Miro, IE9 takes the least amount of space EVEN WHEN it's maximized. You can check it by taking maximized screenshots and then measuring the pixels with any photo-editing software. And, the screen above the address bar is not "wasted" in IE9. It's designed for allowing users to take advantage of the incredibly useful Aero Snap feature of Windows 7. With Chrome there's no space above the title bar to drag the maximized window.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Congrats on RC !Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Well if the font/text is still blurry, I won't even bother wasting time to even download or try the RC. Tried several times to use the beta, but uninstalled it each time, due to the blurry looking fonts. The performance was nice, but l'll just stick with IE8 if that doesn't end up getting changed. Hope this can be fixed by the final release.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
2 things:
- For people who use a lot of tabs, vertical tabs (in Firefox and Chrome) are an absolute must. It would be great to have them built-in.
- Nothing here about add-ons, which is 99% of the reason for using alternative browsers.
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February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
In Faceboook, saving a Note with many paragraphs will corrupt the note, because all carriage returns are converted to Spaces. This still happends in IE8 RC.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Related to the "Paste and go" feature via keyboard... is there any reason why this isn't available via Web Accelerators? It'd be nice to have a mouse only feature. You could simplify the entire "copy/paste-and-go" process to simply "select text, and then select "navigate" or "go" from the web accelerator pop-up". You already have a "Search with Bing" option in the pop-up. I'd love a "Navigate" option. I can't tell you how many times I've wished I had this... there are so many times when someone has a link that isn't hotlinked for whatever reason, at least in my experience, that it would be useful. It's also useful when you want to navigate to just PART of a URL link (like the root part, not the full link).Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Css Transitions PLZAnonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
RC is more more stable compare to Beta version, great. Now i can have my address bar at the top (i thot it will be at the bottom, like google), great. But,
- Please remove the tab gradient & transparent effect, when my pc desktop background is darker, it is so hard to read the text in inactive tabs! one more thing, can make the height of tab larger???!!! Or use back the beta version if possible, or IE8 will absolutely fine!
- Command bar and fav. bar... please allow me to separate them in to two rows.
- Spell checker please.... How many times you want me to say it again? :) ... Review the UI experience please.. Thanks!
Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@pmbAustin - there is an 'open URL in new tab' accelerator I use all the time; I suspect the thinking is not enough people discover accelerators at al, let alone install new onesAnonymous
February 10, 2011
Why tabs on top are the best solution. support.mozilla.com/.../why-are-tabs-top Because they are intuitive,etc... And you say that listen us!?!!? This is a joke. Right?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Why are Tabs on Top better? The main reason is that it just makes more sense. With the old way, the tab and the controls were grouped together and the page was separate. With tabs on top they are now all grouped together so that each tab has it's own set of controls.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
You guys are idiots for not supporting Windows XP. Last time I checked it had the largest install base of any Operating System in the world and Internet Explorer is the only major browser to not support HTML5 on it.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
I hate tabs on top. Look at Notepad++. The tabs are below the toolbar. End of Story.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Font rendering is still causing eye cancer. The fonts on Facebook are very hard to read. Blury and unsharp, terrible experience. And: All sites requiring Java (tested with "Do I have Java" on java.com) will crash the tab.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
PLEASE, Dragging-And-Dropping URLs as .URL (dot URL) files is a must have for compatibility with other browsers and older ie versions! Go away with these 'pinned sites' .(dot)Website extension!! Or create an alternative! Why break compatibility for such basic and useful trick!?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Wow - you guys were dead silent on Geolocation! Thank goodness you snuck that in!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Text-shadow. That is all.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I just LOVE I.E. THANK YOU!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Release Candidate version is still not color managed application. I mentioned that on different forums, reported a bug, got a few answers which clearly show that some people have no idea what a color managed application is. The thing is that IE does not use the monitor profile and in case you have a wide gamut monitor, all the colors are oversaturated. It looks I'll have to use Firefox for my graphic purposes as I did until now. Firefox is color managed application.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
No options to disable Font smoothing? THANKS BUT NO!!!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
how to upgrade ie9 beta to rc?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Interresting how you compare your ie9 release candidate to already released or old versions of competitive browsers.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
To IE developers : I'd like to thank you for two thing :
- being able to get the tabs on their own toolbar, that's great !
- having fixed the rendering problems in IE8 mode Now, fix the last biggest problem : allow us to install IE9 on Windows XP !!! It's stupid to force users to buy Windows 7 to get IE9 because NOBODY will buy an OS just for a browser. I love IE, but I won't buy a new computer and a new OS just for that. We all know that you lie when you say : "IE can't run on XP because XP is too old and IE9 need some weird things to be useable".
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February 10, 2011
@Ziad Ismail [MSFT] Yes, I understand the reasons for not implementing Web-sockets/workers, IndexedDB etc. those standards are unstable, and your work with the W3C is compendable! However, that still doesn't explain stuff such as text-shadow and HTML5 History API, CSS Transitions etc., which I believe are stable, have been around for a while and supported by all rival browsers, correct me if I'm wrong.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I'd also like to see history.pushState sqeaze in - very awesome feature: http://html5demos.com/history Great release otherwise, you deserve some kudos for a change.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
About XP, this OS is ten year old now, why you not use HTML/CSS that is ten year old too? HTML3.0/CSS1.0 or whatever? Be serious... btw, IE9.0 not work on Win9x and Win3.11 too...Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I am dissapointed and will propably not use it and block it in WU. I miss favorites menu on the left side, under back button like in IE8, not on right side, opening menus ilogically out of main window. Sadly this new UI is not very well designed and feels very unpolished.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
It must be possible to turn off Clear Type or I am not using IE9. I've said it before (and shown many examples of how bad the anti-aliasing is) so I have no intention of using it. My Windows 7 install does not force ClearType on any Windows app - thus IE shouldn't force it either. That aside - a good RC so far, I'll sum up my bug findings after running my test suites.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Thank you a million times for exposing the tabs-on-separate-row option. One question: I notice there's still no evidence of console.time and console.timeEnd. These are really useful for performance testing. Any chance they might make it in before final?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
HELP: How to turn off this nightmare of text rendering, it looks like double antialiasing. Is that Clear Type on drugs?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
There are four videos embedded in this blog post and only the YouTube hosted one works. Since Google has more expertise with online video than Microsoft does perhaps all IE blog videos should be hosted on YouTube from now on.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@R: If you hold shift key when you begin dragging a link, you'll get the legacy URL dragging behaviour instead of site pinning.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
'We are hearing your feedback', yeah. Instead fixing of option to disable ClearType, they removed it. Fortunatelly, there is a way to disable ClearType:
- go to system options, and ENABLE clear type (control panel -> system -> advanced settings)
- run ie9, load page, then pres F12 to turn on developer tools, then press F12 again to hide developer tools. You must show/hide dev panel, after every ie9 run, and for each tabbed page Not perfect, but works (on my win7 64)
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February 10, 2011
I'm delighted that with RC1 Google Docs now works, at least at first check, on Win7/64. However, it's frustrating that clicking new documents in the docs list opens them in new windows, not new tabs. Likewise Selecting "Create new..." then selecting an option opens the new document in a separate window. It's not clear whose issue this is, but I don't have this problem with Chrome, Firefox, or the Mac version of Safari.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I never received an e-mail or response from you over this matter: camendesign.com/stop_this_madness I know you were contacted internally over this matter and I expected at least you’d consider reaching out to me. I am very disappointed that nothing has been done to open this discussion.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@Aethec: "(Dilbert.com crashes on my system too...)" -Individual, my system does not crash. :) @thenonhacker: "I hate tabs on top." -For me, it does not matter whether the tabs at the top, bottom or side. :) @Gb: "Font rendering is still causing eye cancer. The fonts on Facebook are very hard to read. Blury and unsharp, terrible experience." -Really? My texts are displayed nicely and clearly. =/Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Just wanted to thank you for listening to feedback and making tabs moveable to a separate row!Anonymous
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February 10, 2011
Just a sugestion: CTRL+SHIFT+L should be the same as copy + paste in URL + go to in new tab As simples as selecting text and hit the combination key, a new tab would open with the search results for the selected word(s)Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Time to say WOW! IE9 RC is really cool! Much, much faster, working stable, and so many improvements in Trident! Nice work! I am glad to hear that IE support GeoLocation. I assume that it use information from your own service (like Google GeoAPI) of location wifi hotspots. It will be great if IE support also Windows Sensor API (your own inbuild Windows platform, if avalaible Sensor is connected and user have own GPS). Outside US is really impossible to get (for now) location in IE.Anonymous
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#Boris: "I'd have more faith in your test center results if you didn't knowingly have broken tests in there. See for example these bug reports: bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi Every single one of these has been reported to you months ago. Some of them more than once now. Yet you still insist on basing some sort of scores on these tests...." We take testing very seriously and we take input from the community into account when we formulate or resubmit tests. I can comment on the tests I am familiar with and will follow up with others here on the rest. 589638 and 589639 states that the test is 'bogus' because the default in SVG for overflow is hidden. We discussed this in the working group and since the default in CSS for HTML is overflow:visible, and since this is an HTML page (and not SVG or XHTML), the default should be visible, these seem to be valid. For 589640, the HTML5 spec states that we are to convert tagnames to the correct camel casing. The test does not seem to be in error. For 589650, it was noted that the spec was amibigous for getComputedStyle; we took that feedback and modified the test. Firefox now passes as well. The last two I will be contacting my local experts on. I appreciated your attention to detail. Let us know if we could communicate better.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Am I the only one having trouble playing the embedded videos on this page? The only one I can play is the youtube one.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
No support for the File API or multiple attribute on file inputs in IE9? ;-(Anonymous
February 10, 2011
So I downloaded the 64-bit installer, and tried to run it. It displays that it is "Installing required updates..." then prompts me that it needs to install updates before installing. I click the "Get update" button, and it fails, saying "Setup could not launch go.microsoft.com/fwlink So I go and check for updates in the control panel, and there's nothing. Okay, maybe something is wacky, so I reboot and try again. Same exact behavior - still won't install due to missing updates, still can't figure out which updates it's missing, and Windows still doesn't see any updates that are missing. As an aside, I'd also like to see an implementation similar to Chrome's auto-upgrade. It's amazing how seamless those updates are, in comparison to the headaches I'm having with the IE9 RC.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Tested it on my Intel Atom Lenovo. It's fast, really fast. Huge improvement over the beta. Replaced FireFox for sure. Congrats IE team, you finally made a good browser.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Here is a small suggestion: Under Tracking Protection menu, can you guys add a link for subscription lists in the final release?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
First good work, we're all happy to see the improvements. Three points though for further improvement:
- I really dislike the positioning of the toolbars and vote to either allow users to re-arrange the positioning, or (starting from the top): Menu bar, Tabs, Address bar. Also I can place the BING toolbar on the same row as the MENU bar but can't seem to do the same with Favorites or Command bar. And speaking of the BING toolbar, it takes up too much vertical space.
- Wasted space above the Address bar. Not sure the best way to address this though, other than putting everying on the same row as the Minimize, Restore, Close window btns.
- As an earlier post pointed out, IE9 RC tab consistently crashes when visiting DILBERT.COM, then restores the tab, crashes again, restores, crashes,,, etc, endless cycle.
- What happened to INPRIVATE FILTERING (CTRL-SHIFT-F) ? This was a great feature that worked superbly and prevented lots of JS from running. Is it still here and I don't see it? Tracking Protection is nice but INPRIVATE FILTERING learned as it went along and didn't require any lists. What was the reasoning in removing it? Maybe I'm just not thinking. Thanks again.
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February 10, 2011
I'm in the same, exact boat as George. When I click "Get Updates" it lists a hotfix under WIndows 7, but then says that I already have it installed. Everything else that he said matches my situation exactly. I even tried updating things like my video driver, chipsets, and many other things to try and guess what updates it wants me to have. No luck.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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@Joey: Thanks for trying IE9 RC! Can you please post a link to the site where you are seeing the issue with FlowPlayer inside a <video> element? The IE team would like to investigate this further.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Can't agree more with Matthew. The update mechanism on Chrome is fantastic because as the web moves forward, so does the browser, automatically, no effort required by the user. It would be so awesome to see IE work like this. Absolutely great stuff though, I've been excitedly checking out every preview. Thank you! :)Anonymous
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February 10, 2011
It's a major failing that you have chosen not to support Windows XP. IE9 could have allowed web development to finally take a step forward but now we are forced to still target IE6-8, which your little table shows how many horrible failings there are in it.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Congrats! One thing I still want to see IE improves is the large empty space on top of the screen. Can you remove it? The vertical space of laptops is already very limited and I don't want to see such a waste of my screen.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@Major Nobody is forcing you to support IE6/7 now... it's not like IE9 coming out would convince the few remaining people to update if IE8 didn't. Usage of IE6 has already dropped too low to care about. By the time IE9 is widespread, IE7 will be at the same point IE6 is right now. Right now you really only need to worry about IE8/9, then maybe make sure that your site doesn't completely explode in IE7.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@Gabriel Young
- What version of Windows are you running? Server 2008 R2 has pre-requisites that must be installed separately. W7 64-bit Home Premium. IE9RC (32-bit so existing plugins work)
- Can you be more specific about what isn’t working? What happens when you try to play one of the videos? I see the embedded videos (top three) each with the start screen with the big arrow play button in the middle. But when I click on it to play, it just switches to blank. I have Silverlight installed. GPU acceleration on/off doesn't seem to matter. I have a Chrome on the side and it plays them fine.
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February 10, 2011
Found INPRIVATE FILTERING feature: TRACKING PROTECTION > Your Personalized List > SETTINGSAnonymous
February 10, 2011
Oh I just found out the reason for video playback issue. I had the Compatibility View (CV) enabled. It seems to disable the video playback. Why did I enable the CV? Because the texts look fuzzy without it. Not all sites are like that but it seems that enabling the CV mode fixes the fuzzy text issue. Is there a way to fix this without turning on the CV?Anonymous
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text-shadow enough saidAnonymous
February 10, 2011
ie9 -> .jxr, .hdp extension not supportAnonymous
February 10, 2011
Install h264 plugin for firefox/chrome or install silverlight... @IE Team: PLEASE, give us the option to remove close button on inactive tabs. When a lot of tabs are open, A misclick will close some important tab and it is SO FAST, you'll have to search for the tab for a bit before realizing that you have closed it. Middle click on active/inactive tab to close. is there already... Right click on address bar should have "paste and navigate" option. The whole purpose of copy->paste->go is to avoid the keyboard and do things faster with mouse. Middle click on address bar can be a shortcut for this :) Also, when a url text (not <a>) is selected, the right click menu should have "Navigate" option. Firefox already has it and it is one of my favorite feature.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
#Patrick: > the default should be visible That's not what the spec says right now, though. Are there published errata to this effect? Or even any public discussion you can point me to? There seem to be no provisions for this change to the default stylesheet for SVG that I've been able to find. > the HTML5 spec states that we are to convert tagnames Ah, the test did get fixed to step over Text nodes now. I agree that the remaining failure is a bug in Gecko, but it has nothing to do with tag names; it has to do with .id on <altGlyphDef> not returning its id. Thank you for pointing out that the Text node issue is resolved. I'd recommend making the test fail on thrown exceptions, by the way.... seems safer. > we took that feedback and modified the test. Thank you! I really appreciate that.Anonymous
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+1 to the chorus of those with font issues. I'm very sorry to see the RC still uses the same DW font rendering engine as the beta. With text so fuzzy and hard to read for me, I do not see myself even attempting to use IE9 over Chrome. Compatibility mode fixes the issue, but then what was the point of upgrading to 9 if I can't even use the new engine? I've read lots of feedback from people who have the same issue with it, so I foresee there being a lot of complaints once it's released (assuming it isn't corrected by then).Anonymous
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February 10, 2011
Great browser, but here are my beefs.
- Could you PLEASE provide an option to separate the search bar and the address bar for the final release? I used the search bar quite frequently in IE7/8. With IE9, it is a bigger pain to search for something, and it is even more annoying when you don't know which search provider you have selected. All of a sudden you search for something, but with the wrong provider selected.
- When dropping down the address bar to view your previously viewed sites, you can only see a few of them now. In previous versions of IE you could see a much bigger list of previous sites that you've visited, and I always kept all of the sites that I visited most on that list. I have gotten around #2 by just enabling the favorites bar and putting icons of all of the sites that I visit on that bar, but I would REALLY love to see #1 addressed. IE9 would be beyond perfect if you could make that happen. But I doubt it will get done, seeing how only a dozen or so bugs get fixed between the RC and the final released. Prove me wrong and make it happen, IE team!
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@Meni When you try and use the beauty of the web in latest FF4 Beta it is really fast. So hopefully you won't have to wait much long to use that site with Firefox.Anonymous
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February 10, 2011
Tabs on a row: great; No RSS button available to turn on except together with the command bar: bad. Let us add some basic buttons - RSS, print, whatever to the top right.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
ever since I downloaded the beta, I cannot open the tools menu without ie freezing. and sometimes it freezes when I try opening a new tab. anyone have a solution? I even tried un-installing it and went back to ie8, but done the same thing with 8 also.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
Of course you compare the coming version of IE to the existing version of Mozilla!!! This is so typical M$ marketing! Instead of comparing the coming m$ browser to the coming versions of the other browsers! Then the score would look somewhat different. No doubt about it. M$ has really made a lot of improvements on their browsers. Actually amazing work if we compare to IE6, that is nice. But the unfair comparison really is bad tasteAnonymous
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I now read in the comments that the text rendering isn't fixed (it was fixed in VS2010 RTM so it is possible) so I'm not even bothering to install.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
The IE9 beta was able to read the www.tamurajones.net site, but the new IE9 RC cannot.Anonymous
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@Those having problems with Cleartype: Be sure to tune its settings. That's the only explanation I can find to you seeing unclear font. (Something like change ClearType settings)Anonymous
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@Peter, the status bar was the most useful bar in IE and now all of its functionality including the PROGRESS BAR is gone except for the zoom button. You are misinterpreting #11. One cannot type something, perform a search and then perform the same search again with a different engine now without typing it again. What you are suggesting is typing something then merely selecting a different engine. #12: Page TITLE is not the same as page URL. Another blunder the IE9 team has created is that now IE9 uses the Windows Servicing mechanism and therefore it cannot be sequenced in their own App-V product. IE6, IE7, IE8 can all be sequenced using App-V Sequencer.Anonymous
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@ Klimax: It's not cleartype problem. It's that the font pixels are not aligned to the screen pixels. If it was cleartype problem it would affect all other apps and win7 itself. This is EXACTLY same problem that was in WPF for many years and in VS 2010 before RTM which fixed it after SERIOUS complaining. The complaining may not be loud enough for this to be fixed in IE9 (I read that running all sites in compatibility mode might sort of alleviate it but that's affecting much more than just the text rendering)Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Strict mode.Anonymous
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February 10, 2011
@zzz: It shouldn't matter unless you got some display with unreasonable low DPI.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Very nice, well done Team IE9. I'm looking forward to RTW now. Minor feedback on the tab UI, I agree with some of the comments above that the X to close the tabs needs to be visible at all times. It feels a bit to "jumpy" to have text disappear the way it does now, and I don't have a visual target for my mouse. And yes I have already clicked quite a few times on a tab and had it vanish because I clicked on the X. The vanishing X might be nice for some technies but it's not really necessary and I think it will cause confusion.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
text-shadow? css3 animations/transitions?Anonymous
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@steve_web: What's your Windows-global setting for font anti-aliasing? None or greyscale?Anonymous
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February 10, 2011
'Paste & Navigate' is a welcome addition, but as 'zzz' noted, Ctrl+Shift+L is nearly impossible to hit with just one's left hand (I have reasonably large hands and can barely reach) - any chance 'L' can be changed to a key on the left side of the keyboard?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
IE9 RC is really fine!Anonymous
February 10, 2011
browsing very smooth hereAnonymous
February 10, 2011
With IE9 RC installed <alt>+<tab> does not keep its overview window with the open app windows on top on my Windows 7 x64. That makes tabbing through open apps difficult. Uninstalled IE9 RC and <alt>+<tab> worked again. Reinstalled IE9 RC and <alt>+<tab> is broken again. If anybody sees the same, please vote here: connect.microsoft.com/.../alt-tab-overview-window-does-not-stay-on-topAnonymous
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February 10, 2011
My sunspider tests:
- IE 64 bit 1125 ms ???
- IE 32 bit 412 ms
- Google Chrome 638 ms jQuery 1.5 library doesn't work: Object doesn't support property or method 'getElementsByTagName' Although, I think that it is a jquery bug. In addition, there are also javascript issues in Gmail, Facebook, etc. It was hard to open my gmail account in IE 9 RC. :S
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February 10, 2011
HAVE YOU FIXED FONT RENDERING? I WILL SUE YOU FOR DAMAGING MY EYES. IF WANTED TO HAVE UGLY BLURRY FONTS LIKE IN F*CKING LINUX, I WOULD USE LINUX.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
That results table couldn't look any more made upAnonymous
February 10, 2011
The theming of buttons is a bit haphazard. In the 'View Downloads' window, for example, 'Close' and 'Clear List' both look semi-native (lacking only the fade-in/out animation), while all other buttons have the custom theme found in the Favorites pane and notification pop-ups. Page context menus still don't quite match the Windows 7 theme (a problem since IE8 or earlier) - expansion arrows hover white rather than black, and disabled items have a blue hover (Vista-style), not grey (the font colour also changes slightly). The first item in the Alt+X Tools menu, 'Print', is highlighted when the menu is first opened, which is unusual in Windows. Also, is it just me, or do IE's scroll bars lack animations completely? I thought in IE8 that hovering over a scroll bar would at least change its colour, but maybe I'm wrong. Huge thanks for removing the top border present in the Beta, by the way.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
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February 10, 2011
The following options are removed:
- Force offscreen compositing even under Terminal Server
- Always use ClearType for HTML
- Smart image dithering
- Print background colors and images
- Address bar search preference: Do not submit unknown addresses to your auto search provider, Just display the results in the main window. I miss them, especially the last one because my IE9 is automatically going to the site after a search (I'm feeling lucky type behavior) instead of displaying the search results. The entire IE9 team should be fired for delivering a half-baked broken product.
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February 10, 2011
In addition, there is not a filter button for favorites. I have a bunch of links and can't find what I need.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@Drake By 'page context menus', I meant the menu that appears when right-clicking within a page (with 'Back', 'Forward', 'Search using copied text', etc.). The other menus in IE9 all appear to use the normal style :) (apart from 'Favorities' in the legacy menu bar, which I think handles multiple columns or has some other unusual function that must have required a custom menu). Regarding the first item of the Tools menu being highlighted: you're right, using a keyboard shortcut to open a menu will cause the first item to be highlighted. However, clicking a button to open a menu generally doesn't (clicking 'File' in Notepad opens the menu with nothing highlighted). In IE9, clicking the cog icon opens the Tools menu with 'Print' highlighted. I think IE9 is pretty good when it comes to interface consistency. I can think of many applications that don't do as good a job, anyway.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
When will I be able to report a bug without ONE MORE useless registration? I can't even see if the bug already reported. Without removing this obstacle, IE will always be buggy, I believe.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
#patrick DENGLER IE 9 RC : Where is HTML+TIME (SMIL) and filters in compatible mode IE8 ? Please testing : www.plein-air-locations.frAnonymous
February 10, 2011
Would be nice to know when a site supports site pinning features, so I don't have to drag every site to the taskbar to find out.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
How can you writing such a lies about standard compability (Evertyhing - 100% are you joking? Without WebWorkers? OfflineApps? FileAPI?)Anonymous
February 10, 2011
When will this work on windows xp?Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Agree with almost everything "IE9 evil at its core" wrote. The UI is unusable. What is Microsoft counting on? Those people who want a dumbed down interface and a great rendering engine are already using Chrome. The people praising the new browser are the web developers, who won't have to use it.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@Adam Never. XP is ancient newsAnonymous
February 10, 2011
Thanks for the tab row! Still no site title in title bar though, which is still weird, having to hover over the tab to see the name while at the same time having a bit of completely unused UI at the top. But I see an issue that wasn't there before: I have my homepage set to a page on my computer (with links to the sites I regularly visit, sorted as needed) and now it says it has restricted the page from displaying scripts or ActiveX controls every time. Thing is that there are no such scripts anyway (!), but even if there were shouldn't there still be an "always allow from this page" option? There isn't one, I can click allow but if I close and open it again it does it all over again.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
To make up more space on the bar, I will prefer to move Home button inside favourite panel. I don't see we need to click Home button very often. 2 clicks to Home possibly won't harm much. I will also prefer to hide the onebox until click a tab, which then expose onebox across the row. Ideally refresh / stop buttons etc inside onebox shall move next to Home button. It is more natural to work with. Click tab to change existing address. Click new tab for new search. Most browser nowadays have enough hint to tell the site is good or bad, I'm not overly concerns about the url. It has more room to fit more tabs, without need a new row. It saves space of repeated icon (1 in onebox & another in tab; app mode even worse - 3 times). Finally, a ribben like interface for Tools menu. Let me do actions more visually and without mutliple clicking drop down menu. It can align vertically to be more consistent with favourite panel.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
Hm, another issue I just noticed, though I'm quite convinced someone implemented it as a feature: If you open a new tab from your homepage when homepage is the first tab opened, it automatically switches to it even if that checkbox is not checked. Considering why I wrote that little page that I set as homepage, that pretty much defeats its purpose, which is to allow me to open multiple sites quickly, just one middle-click on each name.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I'm liking the new RC, especially now I have my tabs on a row all to themselves again! One thing I do really miss is the RSS feed discovery button. Whilst I'm sure the various metrics show it doesn't get clicked often, I don't think that's the point. It's not supposed to be something you need to click often, but it most definitely does need to be visible for the few times you do.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
For everyone asking for Paste & Navigate on context menu, it's there as soon as you have a copied URL - as Go To Copied Address; the rest of the time it seems to be Search On Copied Text. The real issue may be that the context menu is cluttered and spattered with useless links - could IE have a tool to clean it up the way you can clean up addons please? ;-)Anonymous
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February 10, 2011
Until IE supports Firefox style Extensions I will never use it... I have 18 Extensions in Firefox that I can't live without. I want to make my browser work the way I want it to, not the way someone else decides...Anonymous
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February 10, 2011
Great RC, thanks. As desktop screens become wider but not much higher, how about adding an option to have the favorites bar on the left or right side, vertically instead on top horizontally. Because many websites don't use up the whole width of todays large screens so there is unused space at the sides. Having the favorites bar left or right would give us more space from top to bottom. And frankly, most websites are longer than your browser window, but not wider (only ugly sites do that).Anonymous
February 10, 2011
I love the new IE 9 RC. However on my two PCs the Netflix Windows Media Center application broke once the RC was installed. It worked fine with the beta. It throws a script error.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
You said that on Notifications IE9 now display download speed. The yellow bar notification does not display it, only the download manager window.Anonymous
February 10, 2011
@Björn - My font settings are Anti-alias:Standard (I'm not sure what that equates to in terms of None/Grayscale). I refuse to use ClearType due to the eyestrain headaches I get when it is turned on. I see "rainbow" text all over the screen especially with black text on a white background (which is 80% of the text I view). I find it hilariously ironic that the ClearType folks have suggested that this is the ultimate scenario for ClearType anti-aliasing as it most certainly isn't but I digress. I'm really trying to be optimistic about this release of IE. I've already noticed many JavaScript fixes since the last beta! When in standards mode (full on IE9 Standards mode only), IE9 RC fixed the following:The resize event fires properly on the window element now
Radio buttons and checkboxes now properly fire the onchange event. - About Fri@#$ing time!
Double-Clicking any element now properly fires the correct AND complete sequence of events!
Noscript elements no longer render containers onscreen when scripting is enabled! This was annoying as #ell because it would mess up layouts There's still a massive pile of un-fixed JavaScript/DOM issues - but its good to see that there was some progress made here. Hopefully many, many more will be fixed before the final IE9 goes RTM. steve
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February 10, 2011
I HATE the square tabs - Windows 3.1 was decades ago!Anonymous
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February 11, 2011
IE9 scores best in Sputnik Javascript conformance test met ruim 5000 javascript test. In deze test ontwikkeld voor Google scoort IE9 RC bijna de helft van het aantal fouten dat Chrome 10 bevat en bijna 3 keer minder dan Firefox 4Anonymous
February 11, 2011
In this Sputnik test developed fot Google the IE9RC scores nearly half the error that Chrome 10 does and only about a third of the errors that Firefox 4 makes on this testAnonymous
February 11, 2011
I've found two issues:
- You guys forgot to remove old x64 version of ieproxy.dll_old0 from "C:Program FilesInternet Explorer"
- Favorites -> Organize Favorites throws exception "Error: 55 Object doesn't support property or method 'NewFolder'"
- Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Lots of improvements which is good to see: I re-ran the real world "IE Fail Whale" test suite in IE9 RC. IE Fail Whale test results:
IE6: Passes 0, Fails 18 IE7: Passes 3, Fails 15 IE8: Passes 7, Fails 11 IE9: Passes 14, Fails 4 (testing the RC release) Of course all other browsers still pass all 18 tests. Woo Hoo! only 4 to go!
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February 11, 2011
Dear IE team, after the first shock I'm really enthusiastic about IE9. However, since this is probably the last chance to influence the outcome of IE9 a few words... They're about Issues reported on Connect; I know, you could reproduce most of them, but I'd still like to bring them to your attention once again. 1.) Issue #556277 (generated content with display: list-item doesn't create marker boxes) Since Issue #556388 (generated content incorrectly rendered with eight display: table-* types) has been fixed, I wondered why this issue was not yet fixed? 2.) Issue #567036 (in the separated border model rules=all is ineffective) Here it'd simply be nice if the border wasn't solid but inset/outset like in other browsers. 3.) Issue #584333 (Multiple ID Selectors are only partially supported) The specificity of #id1#id1 is still broken, it would be nice to have this fixed. 4.) Issue #599371 (navigator.cookieEnabled does not return site specific results) This is a really annoying issue for me; I've reported it for IE8 and for IE9 as soon as I was able to test it. Unfortunately it is still unfixed :( 5.) Issue #585846 (calc() including 0% is ignored) Maybe you didn't notice, but I've updated the testcase after the CSS WG cleared up issues on the 0 handling. Two subtests are still failing. 6.) Issue #636357 (the attr function does not always return correct results) Unfortunately I discovered the issues with the CSS 3 enhancement only so late in the game. It appears you disabled the CSS 3 attr function which is what I would've recommended anyway. The spec is not ready to be implemented yet. Good job :) 7.) Issue #636480 (non-positive integers should not apply to orphans and widows) On the www-style mailing list I read that your John Jansen works on this, however, this report is still not marked as reproduced. 8.) Issues #566091 (text/xml site with non-XHTML namespace or missing xmlns should render document tree) The testcases now render the document tree which is what I expect. However, the testcases in Report #566081 (blank page with non-XHTML namespace or missing xmlns attribute) still render pure text. Can we expect those to render the document tree as well? After all, just because they're XML labled as XHTML, there is no need for different handling of the same XML. I thought there are more issues, but I think these are the top 8. You can allways view my overview, the-dees.webs.com/iepp1 It's most unfortunate that the important innerHTML won't be fixed, but I'm happy some bug I almost gave up on have been fixed in this version.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
Please, someone, tell me how to 'properly' tune my ClearType settings. I have a Dell Precision laptop with a glossy 1920x1200 WUXGA display, and I cannot tolerate the ClearType in IE9. I spent 20 minutes yesterday trying to 'properly' tune it, as well as improperly tuning it, but I still suffer from eye strain when it's on. I normally keep ClearType turned off, but since IE9 won't let me turn it off, I decided to give it a try. I'm a big fan of IE, and I always recommend it, but I removed the Beta because the option didn't work (I even submitted a bug report on it) and now I'm going to have to remove the RC for the same reason. If the final version will not allow me to turn ClearType off, I will be removing it as well. As a software developer, I have all the major browsers loaded on my system, but IE is my go to browser. I'd hate for that to change.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
I second JimB's post. It is so ignorant to not respect people who cannot stand looking at those washed out smoothed fonts. I tried IE9 for one day and now went back to IE8 as my eyes feel tired after looking at web pages in IE9 for more than a few minutes. Please give us an option to disable font smoothing.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Guys, this is really exciting to see! This is great that you are really pushing for implementing the latest standards and technologies. I even believe that you'll be following through on your promise to implement more when the other specs feel more solid! I would like to make the suggestion that IE9 have the capability to update itself independently from Windows Update. If you can make it easier for users to adopt, I feel that things will start to move much faster for the future of browsers and the web. Keep at it!Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
If you don't get rid of that welcome screen entitled "Setup Windows Internet Explorer", I will never use IE.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
@steve_web: No, it's not a typo, you can write "#id1#id1", it simply selects an element whose ID is "id1" and whose ID is "id1". That may look strange, but is possible and valid. However, the specificity should be higher than a simple "#id1". There's even a test in the test suite, see www.w3.org/.../css3-modsel-15b.html However, IE9 does not calculate the specificity for such an selector correctly. Which I hope is fixed in the Final, because all other browsers pass this test.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Can someone explain why an empty title bar is a good idea? I don't like how Windows 7 Explorer windows do that, and certainly don't like how IE9 is doing that. All I ask is for an option to put the title of the active tab there. You can leave it off by default so you can create "minimalistic" screenshots. Others say tabs should be able to be placed there, though I don't like that because it's hard to use Windows Snap when there clickable buttons on the title bar. It's a reasonable feature to make available (efficient use of pixels), but I'm not a huge proponent. I could already close inactive tabs with a simple middle click. Now it's more difficult to SWITCH to an inactive tab. Others have pointed out that the magically appearing close button makes it even worse since the close button appears just as you get ready to click to switch tabs. Again, all I ask is for an option to disable that "feature." Final complaint. With tabs on their own row, why the heck can't I have 10 horizontal pixels (out of nearly 2000) for a drop down arrow next to the back and forward buttons? I don't want to click, hold, and wait, and IE8 doesn't even support right clicking to see page history, so when I switch browsers getting used to right clicking will be annoying. I'm encouraged by seeing some UI enhancements, and I hope you can add some more customizability for the final release. Please! My favorite thing about Firefox is its customizability. Let me say that about IE9! (I also echo the surprise of no spell checker, but customizability is what I really want to see, since it's a little late to add a new feature like a spell checker to IE9.)Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@ted johnson: If IE is honoring the system settings then what on earth is that fuzzy mess on my screen? It looks like a fuzzy duck...Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Thanks for all (tabs on their own row is a minimal feature, but important for me)Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Let me put the favorites on the left please!Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@the_dees - well now don't I feel like a goof! ;-) I've never used that... and I'm not sure I would, but now that you explain it I guess it makes sense. However I just tried that test case and it works fine for me (both lines are green) and appears to work in IE7, IE8, and IE9 standards mode - only failing in Quirks (which I can't say I'm surprised by at all)Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@Ted: I am not talking about turning off ClearType but font smoothing all together. ClearType is just one algorithm and gray scale antialiasing is another one to implement font smoothing but I do not want font smoothing at all. I played with ClearType optimizing a lot but it just does not help.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
@Ted Johnson [MSFT]: did you try to turn off cleartype in ie9 as you said? Not working!!!Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Oh no again font smoothing! Buy, Buy IE9.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Does anyone else have problems with the Geolocation API in the RC? I just tried running the test on the ietestdrive site and it conistently failed to fix my location! No such problems in Firefox or Chrome I might add. PS. Kudos Microsoft, this thing is seriously zippy!Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@steve_web: Yes, the test in the test suite doesn't test for the specificity but only if the selector is correctly recognized. Here's a testcase that tests for specificity as well: the-dees.webs.com/.../150-multiple-id-selector.html (Sorry for the rather bad hosting enviroment).Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
beta.html5test.com/results.htmlAnonymous
February 11, 2011
Nice, getting there, thank you! Now, why do I need Silverlight for again?Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@hoopyr: Yes, I did do the test. The wizard is a little non-intuitive for turning off ClearType. You have to "Next" through all the screens. It's only when you press the final "Finish" button that the change(s) are saved. @SvenC: It is only possible to disable the ClearType algorithm that uses color. Turning off color ClearType can help folks like steve_web who "see 'rainbow' text" with ClearType on. It is not possible to disable anti-aliasing altogether. Tuning ClearType for your display can make a big difference.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Please include minimum/maximum memory used for the test cases. We'd like to see how much the peak memory usage is reduced for the test cases. Consider, if you have not, letting users filter images by size as well as web site. This will greatly speed up browsing for those with fast connections that have very slow connect times given the dozens of 8x8 pixel or smaller tracking images. Blocking scripts from known sites would help as well given our internal speed tests show most of the page load wait time is on retrieving javascript from slow ad sites.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@Ted: as I already mentioned: I did try tuning ClearType but was not satisfied. So that leaves us again at: why don't you add an option to disable anti-aliasing all together?Anonymous
February 11, 2011
There has to be a way to have the text/fonts produced within IE9 to match the rest of the system. Cleartype tuning doesn't help this - besides I like to keep cleartype turned off anyway. All other text in all other programs is clear and sharp. I just want to be able to experience the same in IE9. Until then, I can't really use it, as reading the fonts within IE9 causes me eye strain - even with my glasses on. Back to IE8, and looks great.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
What is with the Web slice?Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@SvenC: You might also want to tune your colour profile if you see colour fringing.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@Björn: no, color is not the issue for me, it is only the unsharp blurryness of text which makes my eyes hurt after a while when they try to get the text to sharp contrast like all the other text on my display. Honestly, there is no other solution than to getting an option to disable font smoothing all together. Otherwise IE9 is simply not an option for me - which I would find sad.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
The feature "Click to look inside" on the Amazon website does on work in IE 9 RC, not even in compatibility view! Please fix this.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Apparently it's the Direct2d font rendering that makes everything blurry, not Cleartype. The biggest problem is that it makes small fonts look unreadable. Also, after installing IE9RC, Windows Mail has the same blurry rendering too, as well as any other app that uses the IE rendering - Netlimiter stats, CrystalDiskMark, etc. This is a VERY big problem in my opinion. Steps need to be taken in order so subpixel positioning is 1. optional, and 2. only affects IE9, and not applications outside it.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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- Opinion: The empty above the address bar can be used to resurrect the 'title of the page'.
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February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
sorry- just wanna little sharp fonts, i guess.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
IE9 RC crashing on some sites. Still broken on www.apple.com.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Fantastic! I requested Geolocation support and am glad to see it!Anonymous
February 11, 2011
IE9 64 bit Beta (latest version) worked perfectly on my Windows 7 64 bit. After installing IE9 64 bit RC it opens to a white page displaying nothing and crashes after about 5 seconds. Starting up with add ons disabled does not resolve the problem as it still crashes. IE9 32 bit RC works normally though.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
IE9 RC eating 200- 500MB memory by tab and running slow...Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
IE9 RC take 1GB of memory with one tab. Win7 32bits, Any solution?!Anonymous
February 11, 2011
I am using 64bit RC in 64bit Win7. Its consuming: 136+21+24 MBs with two tabs. 136MB iexplore process is somekindof base process which remains there if atleast one tab is opened.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
in the ie9 RC the css3 border-radius not work on an fieldset element. The other browsers correctly renders border-radius on fieldset ThanksAnonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
Uninstalled IE9 RC, back to IE8 its fine and run fast on Apple site! Will try install IE9 RC again...Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Reinstalled IE9 RC and problems solved! No memory problems and Apple site work fine (except some CSS3 features). The problem: IE8 -> IE9 Beta -> IE9 pre RC -> IE9 RC. Solution: Uninstall IE9 pre releases before install IE9 RC or RTM.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
You guys added paste and go to the keyboard command, that's great but why not add it to the right click context menu as well ? Let's think to Windows 7 tablets :pAnonymous
February 11, 2011
- Please implement enable/disable ClearType like IE7/IE8 cause I dont like ClearType.
- Please implement "ITBar7Position" registry like IE7/IE8.
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February 11, 2011
@Jonas_Buet here's what it looks like on my 27" Dell - img837.imageshack.us/.../iechrometabsize.jpgAnonymous
February 11, 2011
- Overall it is good. But there is a slight lag when opening a new tab. Right from old versions of IE, the about:blank and about:tabs take a long time to load.
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February 11, 2011
@Miro, that's because you have placed the tab bar below the task bar. With a 27'' monitor there's absolutely no reason to do so. Here's how it looks in maximized state with the default settings: img248.imageshack.us/.../ie9vschrome.pngAnonymous
February 11, 2011
why dint microsoft implement html5 form features?? i think it is very simple to implement , and also that it can be widely used in websites without using validating scripts. I like the IE9 rc , keep going :-)Anonymous
February 11, 2011
@Ali That html testsite doesnot understand the device element is part of the webapplications spec it list seperatly.
the referred webapplication spec (inlcuding the device element) is no longer a specification the W3C is working on
the WebGL spec is also not a HTML 5 spec. Please wait for 3D Canvas from W3C
gives improper arbitrary weight on different specs (Why canvas only 20 and forms a massive 90?) Its unbalanced and incorrect information makes it appear to be some kind of fansite by some particular browser fan (likely chrome)
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February 11, 2011
cesar said: "in the ie9 RC the css3 border-radius not work on an fieldset element. The other browsers correctly renders border-radius on fieldset Thanks" Yes, but have you seen how other browsers handle DOTTED ROUNDED BORDERS???? ;-) For those who needs things spelled out: IE team made some big fuss about this unimportant border case. back at you big time.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Instead of hovering over the tab precisely over the spot where the X is to appear, you can just quickly move to the general area of the tab and press the MIDDLE MOUSE BUTTON. This has worked since IE7 and is by far the best method for closing tabs ... and opening hyperlinks in new tabs ...Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Another major problem I noticed - you can't access the RSS button! Only if you enable an additional taskbar, which looks very ugly in IE9. What gives? RSS is not important anymore?Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Also, in the said command bar, I cannot put an icon for the developer tools. Yes, I know, F12 works, but I prefer working with the mouse alone very often. This is the same reason why people want paste & go in the context menu. Sadly, I don't think this will be revised as IE9 is already at RC phase. I can only hope that you'll follow it with a bi-year update, IE9.1 or 9.5 perhaps. IE9 is VERY strong in many points, but it has a lot of terribly obvious shortcomings.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
OK, one more thing: regarding the context menu and the developer tools: why not have an "inspect element" command in the context menu? Every other browser has it, and its insanely useful.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
@Bud: You can turn off ClearType using the wizard, text will then be anti-aliased using greyscale anti-aliasing. @Maximilian Haru Raditya: Well sub-pixel positioning can only be used with sub-pixel font anti-aliasing (ClearType) not with the greyscale one. I guess lower DPI and thus larger (sub)pixel are more visible and therefore more "distracting" (I can just guess because I haven't had anything with less than 100 DPI for years) but on the other hand you benefit more from having thrice the horizontal pixels for positiong. @DanglingPointer: They said numerous times before that they are probably not going to implement SVG fonts and SMIL which are necessary for the last points on Acid3. @ST: Like said before, the system-wide setting is honored, so simply turn off ClearType at system level. @meni: Hey, nothing against dotted rounded corners! The result is really great and I wonder how much brain power was invested in creating algorithms for this.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
Amazing work and progress guys. What a turnaround it has been: from IE8, from slowest to...fastest! And thanks for listening!Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
Would love to use IE 9 RC.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
The changes in the javascript parser has broken all the sites that use FCKeditor or CKEditor due to not being able to parse code like this: do{ /* */ } while(false)return; So at the very least another release is needed to fully test IE9 in the wildAnonymous
February 11, 2011
@Klimax The search field might have been neglected by most, but invaluable for those who used it. It was actually the main reason I did not switch over to Chrome. The new combined field does not allow me to try the same query with several search engines, does not give me a good way of switching search engines at all (10/13 search providers have the same default icon), and does not allow me to make queries like: "site:microsoft.com disappointment". I think it is safe to assume that both the people praising the UI and the people bashing it use the browser. People not using the browser are praising standard compliancy. Web developers no longer even have have to test with IE (as regorously).Anonymous
February 11, 2011
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February 11, 2011
well i am so happy to know that i must watch beautiful aa fonts because ms thought it's good for me. just install chrome and surprise!- no aa at all! they are so mindless, without any artistic sens. you like how ie9 rendering fonts, good for you. that's all, goodbye.Anonymous
February 11, 2011
Allowing the tabs on a separate row is a good first step, but the GUI needs more work. All the command icons are too small and too close to each other, making them hard to hit. Frequently used favorites button is now burried between rarely used options and home buttons. Moving the tabs to a separate row also moves the other icons far, far, to the right edge of the screen. Overall the usability of the new GUI is not very good for me. Please add more options for configuring the UI layout. I understand minimalistic browser GUI is popular nowadays, but it shouldn't affect usability in negative ways. In IE9 it certainly does.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
And another request: Please add an option to disable the transparency effect on tabs. If IE9 is on top of some dark window, the black text on inactive tabs can be very hard to read. The semi-transparent tabs look slick, but once again they affect usability.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Hi guys I have some problem with ie! Look this javascript code: for(var i in f = {d:window, e:document}) { console.log(f[i]); // Results : // IE9 RC & lower: [object], [object] - It's Bad! ): // Safari 4, 5: [object DOMWindow], [object HTMLDocument] // Chrome 8, 9, 10: [object DOMWindow], [object HTMLDocument] // Firefox 3.6, 4b: [object Window], [object HTMLDocument] } And: console.log({}.toString.call(document.createElement('div'))); // Results : // IE9 RC & lower: [object Object] - What is this!?? So Bad! ): // Safari 4, 5: [object HTMLDivElement] // Chrome 8, 9, 10: [object HTMLDivElement] // Firefox 3.6, 4b: [object HTMLDivElement] what's happen ie!!? are you okay? Chackra it is not new javascript engine! it is old JSript engine!!! I really need to, plz. Please fix it, in last or final stable ie version. File, FileReader, FileList, Websocket and other api's not supported. HTML5 is not just video and audio and Canvas! Idea for better GUI: Remove none space from top of the window, see picture: www.4shared.com/.../Untitled.html Sorry for my bad english. Thanks.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
IE9 RC keeps constanly crashing becuse of DEP I have disabled all add-ons and it still crashes. Trying many tweaks including running it with admin priviledges and it still crashes. Here's the last error Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 12/02/2011 11:16:35 a.m. Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: EduardoValencia Description: Faulting application name: iexplore.exe, version: 9.0.8080.16413, time stamp: 0x4d4ce896 Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x0000000000000000 Faulting process id: 0x9b0 Faulting application start time: 0x01cbcad0374765c4 Faulting application path: C:Program FilesInternet Exploreriexplore.exe Faulting module path: unknown Report Id: 76077025-36c3-11e0-96f5-a037519cb686 Event Xml: <Event xmlns="schemas.microsoft.com/.../event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-02-12T16:16:35.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>6535</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>EduardoValencia</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>iexplore.exe</Data> <Data>9.0.8080.16413</Data> <Data>4d4ce896</Data> <Data>unknown</Data> <Data>0.0.0.0</Data> <Data>00000000</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>0000000000000000</Data> <Data>9b0</Data> <Data>01cbcad0374765c4</Data> <Data>C:Program FilesInternet Exploreriexplore.exe</Data> <Data>unknown</Data> <Data>76077025-36c3-11e0-96f5-a037519cb686</Data> </EventData> </Event>Anonymous
February 12, 2011
@Klimax - you may have been absent when users complained about ClearType but unfortunately MSFT felt they had invested too much time and money into it to back down and remove or fix it when all the users complained. The easy test to show that it doesn't work is simple. 1.) View text on screen with Clear Type turned on (just be sure the text contains curves (e.g. the letter "C", "O", or "G"... and or angled lines e.g. the letter "A", "N", or "M"....) that is non-bolded black text on a white background at a normal (~10 - 12pt) font-size. 2.) Take a screenshot of the text. 3.) In your favorite image editor (e.g. PhotoShop), scale the image up 400% (e.g. zoom in twice) 4.) Save this image, and post it online in PNG format. If you have managed a miracle, then the screenshot will show perfectly anti-aliased text with NO RAINBOW COLORING, Bolding, or Bluring of the text crispness. However if you are like 99.9% of the people that do this, you will see horrible RAINBOW coloring, artifacting, and in many cases artificial bolding and such. For those of us with good eyesight, we can see this plain-as-day without zooming (the zooming was just to illustrate the point) and it causes horrible eye strain and discomfort to read because when your eyes see a blurry image they immediately try to re-focus it or the user squints to try and alter the "BlurrryText [TM]". If your example is the "perfect" anti-aliasing that doesn't show the rainbow colors, artifacting & blurring... please post the URL into a comment on this blog and specify your exact ClearType settings - I assure you... if there is a setting that provides great results - many, many, many people would like to know! - not just me. PAnonymous
February 12, 2011
Likes: •Ability to move tabs to a dedicated row •Slight tweaking of the tab look •Speed of launching the browser •Speed of website loading Don't Likes: •How the Address/Search bar works •When I search for "ie 9 beta" for some reason I go directly to ie.microsoft.com/testdrive instead of seeing web search results... I don't like this at all, I want the search results. •Typical I want a search engine search, not a website in my history however when I start typing something to search with and it matches part of a URL I've been to, I get the page in my history instead of the web search I want. I'd like the opposite behavior, search first, but give me the option to click on a link that I've previously been to from the drop down. •The IE settings UI needs a COMPLETE overhaul, the whole 'Advanced' tab is very hard to work with. •Lack of ability to save my tabs on exit... This is a key feature in other browsers... Where is it in IE 9? •How tiny the font is in gmail (there was a page for this at microsoft anwsers which has now mysteriously dissapeared) •Lack of on the-fly-spell check (error underlining) in comment boxes like theseAnonymous
February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
@Jonas_Buet I know that but I'm comparing apples to apples here. Tabs on their row and large url bar. IE9 as you showed is not the sam, the URL bar is 500px and you can run 5-6 tabs. Chrome would be even smaller if it too had its tabs right next to the URL barAnonymous
February 12, 2011
Unfortunately, the blue accelerator icon became inoperable after installing ie9rc. Removed all accelerators and reinstalled some; all attempts were to no avail. Any hints?Anonymous
February 12, 2011
IE settings UI doesn't need any overhaul. It's organized neatly. Any overhaul will make Microsoft remove things again.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
@Tambar It looks fine to me...Anonymous
February 12, 2011
It’s truly great to see all the enthusiasm around IE9 RC. Your comments are helpful and are being read by many members of the IE team. Yet, there are two things I’d like to say to make this forum more productive:
- Specific bugs should be filed at connect.microsoft.com/IE. You need to register to file a bug but that registration gives us an email path back to you so we can ask clarifying questions and let you know the eventual resolution of the bug.
- Dean’s post took it for granted that the term “Release Candidate” was understood to mean “Platform Complete.” This means that even though we’d love to respond to your requests for new features in IE9, those requests will be rolled into IE10 planning. There are no new Web platform features planned for IE9. At this time we’re focused on addressing the remaining bugs and glitches and getting this baby out the door.
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February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
border radius is not working in fieldset with legend. Other browsers render ok. If microsoft say that they implement css3 border radius it need to work with all elements. Sorry min, if it is not important to you, but Milions of web deelopers ask microsoft for border radius and they consider this feature very inportant. I am making a site that will render beauty on other browsers but will render ugly in IE9 because of this failure. Sorry microsoft... Please fix this until RTM.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
@Ted Johnson - way to fail! RC (Release Candidate) should not mean (Platform Complete). As indicated by several hundred readers on this blog there is still many bugs that need fixing and omissions that need addressing to have a stable, and successful release. If you are missing a significant feature: e.g. Web Forms 2.0 or a Spell Checker - there is no reason why it can't be added in. If you have committed internally to a specific date for the release - but your team is not going to be ready on time with a suitable release - then PUSH YOUR RELEASE DATE! - Don't cut the scope and make developers and end users suffer because you weren't ready yet. Then again if MSFT had real, usable open public bug tracking you would know where all the issues are and be able to set priorities etc. I will never post another bug in Connect - you burned your bridge with developers a long time ago.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
At a minimum for RTM, IE team, please please change the notification bar to the top of the page where it DOES NOT OVERLAP ON THE PAGE. No browser bar should hide any content of the page. I should be able to scroll the page while the notification bar shows at the top. That was how the information bar was designed. Moving the notification bar to the top where it does not cover any part of the web page is the SINGLE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT YOU CAN MAKE NOW TO IE9 AT THIS STAGE.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Works great! I think this is the first time in a long time, I'm using IE as a purely 'normal' browser ;) ie. in a non-testing (either the site or the browser) mode..Anonymous
February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
@Piere: You can't screenshot and resize Cleartype text and expect to get a meaningful result, because it's fundamentally designed to take into account the exact position and size it's being drawn at. You'd have a point if 72-point Cleartype text looked all rainbow striped when it was drawn, but it doesn't.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Grats on the release of RC! It seams to run really nice and fast and I like the UI. But on the down side it has now caused a huge memory leak in my sidebar.exe causing it to use up to 1GB of RAM while it was maybe at 30MB before. Hope to see this fixed.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Ted, c'mon... Seriously, adding a silly spellchecker is so difficult? You've already it in the house, ready to be included in IE, just look at Live Writer's one. Honestly, I don't think that it will take so much time causing a delay for RTM/RTW. Requests rolled into IE10 planning? We've expected a download manager in IE7: no way. In IE8: no way. Every time, rolled for the next version planning. Finally, you decided to include it in IE9. Similar things are happening with spellchecker. Everytime, the request is rolled into next IE version planning. Sorry, I don't buy that another time. I'm sad, observing that probably IE team will never include such a basic feature. It's like virtual desktop or ISO images in Windows: asked everytime in preliminary feedbacks, never came up as real features (well, at least, in 7 we have ISO burning, cold comfort).Anonymous
February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
Please add this:
- Input field highlighting.
- MathML
- Subtitles for HTML5 video
- MPEG-4 video
- PCM audio
- HTML5 forms
- WebSocket
- HTML5 tree
- TITLE BAR SHOULD NOT BE EMPTY!!!! PLEASE USE IT TO DISPLAY NAME OF THE PAGE LIKE OTHER BROWSERS DO!!!!! OR AT LEAST WRITE THERE WINDOWS INTERNET EXPLORER. IT SHOULD NOT BE EMPTY!!
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February 12, 2011
2Andrew. IE9 don't have 100% CSS3 support. This table means that IE passes 100% of test that microsoft submitted to W3C. All these tests can't include all the features of CSS3. Use html5test.com to see what IE9 supports actually.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
Since you are saying IE9 is "platform complete" and now you are only looking to fix the bugs/glitches and roll it out, here are a few questions I'm sure everyone wants to know:
- AFTER you have shipped IE9 gold wIll you continue to fix bugs (I'm not talking about security bugs) AND provide them in windows update?
- From your comment, it seems IE will not follow the release model of firefox/chrome (new features in minor releases). All new "site ready" features will be implemented and included in IE10. Yes/No?
- Since IE9 conforms to the standards, (almost) anything designed for IE9 will work on IE10. In that case, are you going to auto-update (not forced) all IE9 to IE10?
- Can we expect a faster release cycle for IE? i.e., IE10 after (max) one year? or do we have to wait several years? [IE7 - 2006; IE8 - 2009; IE9 - 2011; IE10 - 2012?] Also, using connect is a PITA. Can you switch to JIRA?
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February 12, 2011
Unfortunately the web is no longer beutiful. Ever since I installed the RC (I was using the beta) web pages are crashing every other refresh.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
When I refreshed the page to see if my previous comment was published correctly, it crashed out and had to recover again!Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Most recent error: Faulting application name: iexplore.exe, version: 9.0.8080.16413, time stamp: 0x4d4ceeab Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.1.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5bdbdf Exception code: 0xe06d7363 Fault offset: 0x0000b727 Faulting process id: 0xb00 Faulting application start time: 0x01cbcb11cecbbaf8 Faulting application path: C:Program Files (x86)Internet Exploreriexplore.exe Faulting module path: C:Windowssyswow64KERNELBASE.dll Report Id: 12f607a1-3705-11e0-a4aa-6cf04955d920Anonymous
February 12, 2011
What happened to the RSS button? I use this to subscribe to feeds and some websites don't offer a more discoverable way of subscribing to their feeds.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
I agree with Eric. Navigating the legacy menu bar just to subscribe to a feed is awful. Please put feed discovery somewhere in the new UI!Anonymous
February 12, 2011
I have a question in Super user ( superuser.com/.../embedded-video-is-not-shown-in-internet-explorer-9-rc-or-beta ) . The embedded videos don't appear in IE 9 RC for a Standard user. For Admin account I don't have any issue viewing the embedded videos. Is this a known issue ? Anything related to graphics card ?Anonymous
February 12, 2011
I tested the Sun spider java script benchmark 0.9.1 and found that IE9RC is 60ms faster than chrome 9.0.597.98 and 100ms faster than Mozilla Firefox 4.0b11... keep it upAnonymous
February 12, 2011
I also checked the CPU power meter power consumption and found that IE9RC is consuming least power < Mozilla Firefox 4.0b11 < Chrome 9.0.597.98 ... keep it up IE teamAnonymous
February 12, 2011
Since installing IE9 RC on Windows 7 x64, sidebar.exe and an instance of svchost.exe are consuming excessive memory over time. At one point, sidebar.exe was using over 1GB of memory. Closing all gadgets terminates sidebar.exe and returns the memory. None of my gadgets have changed. I'm only running two gadgets, Calendar and All CPU Meter V3.3. This behavior did not start until I replaced the IE9 beta with the RC.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
See my issues here: xpwasmyidea.blogspot.com/.../features-removed-in-windows-internet.html Microsoft's refusal to fix these before the RC came out will now result in me never installing IE9 on my Windows 7 or Vista. I will also actively point everyone to these flaws and dissuade them from installing IE9 because it's a half-baked buggy browser.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Text is horrible in IE9 Document Mode. It causes eye strain. Can't use this brower for everyday web surfing because of this. OS X and Linux also don't align to the pixel gird, but they render better. Sad that Microsoft don't use good old ClearType text rendering engine. I hope that Firefox, Chrome and Opera don't go this way in the future.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Forgot a like... Likes: •Smooth scrolling :-)Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Please do add the following: • Password Manager: Password Managers really improves log-in experiences as a Master Password needs to be entered only once a session. • Spell Checker: Office Web Apps with a built-in spell checker should make it easier to use.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
How to Use this following function? __IE_DEVTOOLBAR_CONSOLE_COMMAND_LINE __IE_DEVTOOLBAR_CONSOLE_COMMAND_LINE.cd __IE_DEVTOOLBAR_CONSOLE_COMMAND_LINE.cd(window); Many thanksAnonymous
February 12, 2011
Please fix the following issue: The (pixel size of the close tab...the red X) It seems that one needs pin point accuracy to close the tabs, i'm not sure if this is done intentionally by the IE team. But the (close tab X pixel) needs to be larger. So one doesn't have to position the mouse cursor exactly on the (red X ) to close the tab. Its really annoying. ThanksAnonymous
February 12, 2011
The biggest issue with ALL Microsoft apps these days is that they are constantly fiddling with the user interface. GUI is something that should not change frequently in software. It should change just enough to accommodate new features and incorporate breaking changes. Microsoft has a habit of constantly changing the UI for no apparent reason at all (what some call change for sake of change). MS didn't used to do it so much in earlier Windows, Office and other app releases. Now they do it for every version. Take for instance WMP whose interface has changed with every single version. IE9 faces the same problem.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
The thing about beta testing? You don't just work out the bugs, you work on finalizing the product to give consumers the best possible solution- there are clearly problems here, in that the interface either cannot be changed by a home user, or that the mechanisms to do so are too obscure to be easily identified. There should be options to do so, keep folks happy like, ya dig? I'd rather have some control over my user experience, and not have to relearn it because the developer thinks it should define it for me. I'm certain I'm not the only person that feels this way; simply implimenting an option to revert back to the IE7 or 8 UI will not detract from the default user's experience at all and will help keep from losing ESTABLISHED INTERNET EXPLORER users.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Tried adding the TPL from ie.microsoft.com/.../Default.html but comes up with an error [Window Title] Tracking Protection [Content] The Tracking Protection List could not be added. This might have happened because:
- A required file could not be downloaded
- The website is unavailable
- You are not connected to the Internet You might want to try again later. [OK]
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February 12, 2011
I tried to post the above comment from IE9 RC but t was not posted and the button said "Publishing" for a long time. I had to use Chrome to submit the comment.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Please fix your machines, windows and so on, cause on my 4 years old computer IE9 works flawlesly... From IE8 BETA2 simple computer user can be fully satisfied with Internet explorer. You just can't face it.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
@Paulius This comment was not for you to answer. I know how to fix my computer, you dont have to tell me. I would not have got a JavaScript error message if it was a problem with my machine, so think before you post your comment. I have been using IE from version 5.0 and have tried all platform preview versions of IE 9, beta and now RC. I have now stopped using Chrome and only use it when issues like this come up, so I would like IE team to fix issues like this before IE 9 final version is released. I was just reporting the issue I had with IE 9 not able to add TPL list and the problem i faced when trying to publish a comment as I dont have access to beta feedback.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
@TPL My post was not directed to you.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Oh I remember now why I imediately removed previous betas - there is this dumb ClearType turned on without any option to turn it off... I was meaning to give IE a try but it's painful tu use without acually starting to use it...Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Oh I remember now why I imediately removed previous betas - there is this dumb ClearType turned on without any option to turn it off... I was meaning to give IE a try but it's painful tu use without acually starting to use it...Anonymous
February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
@Paulius, with that fine "works for me" attitude you will find yourself among peers with the Linux fans.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
Piere 12 Feb 2011 9:06 AM: If I have to use 400% to see something I consider it going too far. I use native LCD resolution,so if I have to see something with huge magnification then I don't think that is problem because I don't run anything with such magnifiaction and therefore can't notice anything like it. (I am shortsighted btw.) As for setting I ran through "Adjust ClearType text" and choosing what looked best. (AFAIK I generally chose second option on each page)Anonymous
February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
Please delete my comments above. I'm sorry for being such a Luddite and being a pathetic loser, and also for knowing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about computers.Anonymous
February 12, 2011
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February 12, 2011
Just to be clear. IE team, I was here to post my feedback on IE9 and offtopic comment spam and remarks from others impersonating my user name need to be cleaned up. Or maybe the IE thread should start moderating comments to keep offtopic and disrespectful comments at bay.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
And also please disallow my fake ids like "eXperience", "7flavor", "someone", "anonymous", "XP", "IE8user" etc.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
Plase fix the only usability bug that's left in IE9 for me: IE9 doesn't remember (across tabs) last used save folder for pictures. connect.microsoft.com/.../ie9-doesnt-remember-last-used-save-folder-for-pictures When you save some file (i.e. .zip archive or video) IE9 remembers and shows the last used folder for this file type. But when you save images, IE9 forgets the last used folder and always shows you the My Pictures folder (when you save an image in a different tab.).
- Open any website.
- Right-click on any image and click "Save Image As". You'll be shown the default My Pictures folder.
- Navigate to any other folder and save the image.
- Try to save any image on this page again and notice that you are shown your last used folder which is desired behavior.
- Open a !new! tab either by opening a link in a new tab or by opening a new tab and navigating to some website.
- Try to save any image - you'll be shown the default My Pictures folder instead of the last used folder. I expect to see my last used image save folder. but I see default My Pictures folder.
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February 13, 2011
Why IE9 64bit is slower than 32bit in sunspider ? 209ms VS 989msAnonymous
February 13, 2011
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February 13, 2011
I can understand why not implementing websockets. But webworkers run fine on other browsers.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
I dont know what is the thinking behind this but can you guys fix the "F12 developer tools" menu command in a more "Windows" way, i.e. "Developer tools F12" (with F12 appearing after a tab in shortcut column? Currently it looks very ugly.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
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February 13, 2011
I wish I could close the last tab without closing the whole browser. In IE8 this was possible. Make it possible again.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
Do not like the 'download manager' at all.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
Anyone have an insight on what is causing errors like this in the IE9 RC - Variable uses an automation type not supported in Javascript social.answers.microsoft.com/.../7e34fca5-aa31-4a25-b136-8c58b2fd9dfbAnonymous
February 13, 2011
@egh - couldn't agree more! this is the one thing I HATE about chrome! I'm just closing the tab - not the browser! If I wanted to close the browser I'd click the X in the top right, or press ALT F4, or right click the browser in my task bar and click Close.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
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February 13, 2011
I'd like to use the middle mouse button in every button that links to a web page to open it in a new tab (home, favorites, back, forward, etc). Best regards.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
@AlfonsoML While IE9 should be handling that case, leaving statements to be automatically closed is bad form and the CKEditor people et al should probably update their code to explicitly close them (assuming this isn't an optimisation done by the code crusher, anyway).Anonymous
February 13, 2011
"I'd like to use the middle mouse button in every button that links to a web page to open it in a new tab (home, favorites, back, forward, etc). Best regards." Support!Anonymous
February 13, 2011
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February 13, 2011
You know, I was wondering... When is IE going to save filenames with spaces instead of saving them with %20? Every other browser does it by now.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
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February 13, 2011
I know this has been asked many a times - Why is the title bar blank?Anonymous
February 13, 2011
why u can address bar as top most of browser and shows that much pixel savior for us...Anonymous
February 13, 2011
People complaining about Cleartype should have read the thread as there it was mentioned that IE9 follows ystem wide cleartype settings. Same seetings you have in all other applications. If you have specific issues with IE9 and reading fonts it will be probaly be caused by the IE9 hardware acceleration of text trough Direct2D text. That means the combination of Direct2D, your graphics driver and your graphics hardware does not render text correct. If possibe anyone having text readability issues in IE9 should consider upgrading their gfx card and/or mobo chipset drivers. Also for people complaining about text readability issues please include information on your OS version, your GFX hardware configuration and the version of your graphics driver. We might then find common ground for the text rendering problem in certain chipsets or driver versions.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
The new tabs in the RC are the ugliest in the browser market. Quite a step backwards in terms of progressive UI. A little rounding goes a heck of a long way. HTML5 video format should NOT be h.264 by default - it is disgusting that IE insists on shipping with this as the default. It does nothing to promote the open web and should be regarded as an assault on free and open technologies that the web was built on. Did anyone have luck with the geolocation? It outright fails for me with standards based code that works perfectly in all other browsers. All in all a good beta release but far from RC worthiness.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
The new tabs in the RC are the ugliest in the browser market. Quite a step backwards in terms of progressive UI. A little rounding goes a heck of a long way. HTML5 video format should NOT be h.264 by default - it is disgusting that IE insists on shipping with this as the default. It does nothing to promote the open web and should be regarded as an assault on free and open technologies that the web was built on. Did anyone have luck with the geolocation? It outright fails for me with standards based code that works perfectly in all other browsers. All in all a good beta release but far from RC worthiness.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
@jerryTT no the issue isn't direct2D. We hate FuzzyType in general in windows because it doesn't look good regardless of settings. That said if as you noted I have to upgrade my perfectly good video card in order for me to use IE9 then there is a problem and it has nothing to do with my setup and 100% to do with IE! Until there is massive improvement in FuzzyType I have no intention of using it in windows or IE.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
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February 13, 2011
IE9 must have all-failed and massacred final as Vistal, if M$ have refused implement enable/disable ClearType like IE7/IE8 cause I dont like ClearType.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
Would be nice if new tabs opened via Ctrl+click or middle-click opened next to the active tab instead of at the end of the tab row. This would allow the user to, for example, open a search result in a new tab and then quickly Ctrl+Tab directly to the result page.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
@stan If you do not like cleartype in windows then you should switch it of and not *** about it here. IE9 will follow your windows setting for cleartype. If you still have issues with the text rendering it won't be cleartype then. Most IE9 user do not have any issues with text rendering. They can see the text perfectly fine. But apperantly also several people do report issues. Since text rendering has changed to hardware it is likely an issue with hardware driver support for the Direct2D text spec. And if you gfx card and driver do not render text correct they are not so perfectly good as you claim they are. You should either upgrade to a newer fixed gfx driver of ask your gfx card supplier for such a fixed driver. Providing info on your gfx hardware and driver version could help as it can identify issues with particular gfx driver/hardware combo's which could help Microsoft to contact the hardware manufacturer.Anonymous
February 13, 2011
@Adam Go to Tools, Internet Options, General, Tabs - Settings button: Uncheck "Enable Tab Groups" Check "Open each new tab next to the current tab" Restart your browser. Have a nice day.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
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February 14, 2011
Hi there. I'd like to know what does IE9 team is thinking about users migration from IE8 (and earlier versions) to 9. IE have a considerable share of browser market, and until earlier days we have many people using IE7, and even few IE6. I'm fearing developing for IE9 (with HTML5/CSS3 capabilities) and ends in a scenario where a huge market share is not able to make use of these features. So again, what does IE9 team is planning about seamlessly migration topic? What are the expectations and previsions? Cheers, CaioToOn!Anonymous
February 14, 2011
Excellent job!! But seriously, no text-shadow ?? PLEASE, don't make this the transparent PNG of today! Designers need want and demand text-shadow! Please, surprise us with text-shadow in the final release!Anonymous
February 14, 2011
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February 14, 2011
IE 9 and earlier versions of the browser do not provide a convenient infrastructure to make an add-on visible to the user without wasting screen space. IE makes it more difficult to extend the browser functionality. Adding an extension icon to the Command bar puts it on the right end of the bar that is obsolete, relatively wide and full of rarely used menu items and icons installed silently by the Microsoft Office. The Command bar is often truncated by the browser and is disabled by default. The command icons resolution is too low for modern UI. Adding an item to the Tools submenu of the Command menu is not practical for the same reason. There is no option to show an extension menu item in the new top Tools menu (ALT+X). The IE toolbars are visible and can be easily accessed by the IE user but they consume a lot of valuable vertical space reducing the browsing area. I suggest to add a new Task Bar that will appear between IE tabs and three IE icons (home, favorites and tools). The task bar should function the same way as the Windows 7 taskbar or the System Tray allowing extensions to modify their icons dynamically. That will make the user experience consistent with other browsers (like Chrome and Firefox) and the operating system. The user should explicitly install the tasks on the IE Task Bar to protect the browser from installers that silently install IE plug-ins.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
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February 14, 2011
EVERYBODY WHO IS HAVING TROUBLES WITH CLEARTYPE: FIRST RUN "Adjust ClearType text" wizard. THEN YOU CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IE HAS BUG IN TEXT RENDERER. Sorry for all caps,but so far majority just ignores this and thinks IE has fault not their settings in Win7.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
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February 14, 2011
@jarra No, no-one needs text-shadow. Some developers want text-shadow for reasons which are beyond me. It isn't the eighties anymore. Please set text-shadow as your lowest priority.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
@Maximilian Haru Raditya: It does work for me. When I turn off ClearType it falls back to greyscale anti-aliasing.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
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February 14, 2011
I dont like font-smoothing (ClearType, AntiAliasing, etc., etc., etc.). Have you seen alphabetic-text mixed with non-alphabetic-text ? dl7.getuploader.com/.../ie9font.png Can I disable font-smoothing (font-masher, etc., etc., etc.) ?Anonymous
February 14, 2011
http://www.partinchina.com http://www.hqew.netAnonymous
February 14, 2011
Please add Transitions, text-shadow etc... !!Anonymous
February 14, 2011
Thanks for the chart comparing this version with IE8 and other browsers. It's great to see the significant improvements in javascript and CSS3 support. And, as with many others, look forward to additional CSS3 support (e.g. text-shadow).Anonymous
February 14, 2011
HTML5 Drag & Drop Uploader.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
@Maximilian Haru Raditya: The mentioned improvements are those that come with an Update which is also part of Windows 7 SP1, if you compare light-on-dark rendering from the early Directwrite version with the current one (e.g. 6.1.7601.17514 on Win7SP1) you will see that the newer is better in terms of readability in small and medium font sizes.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
Klimax: As was stated several times, the issue isn't ClearType directly, changing that setting will make text worse in all apps if it's already good in all but IE9. This was extensively tested during the WPF fiasco that lasted several years. After complaints of text quality on WPF, they fixed it so that it look 1:1 like GDI even though it is hardware accelerated. blogs.msdn.com/.../blind-comparison-vs2008-vs-vs2010.aspx The problem here is purely that the API that IE9 uses has either not incorporated these fixes or if it has, IE9 doesn't have the option to enable them on all sites by default without affecting other areas of the browsing experience. So just like I mentioned earleir, if you talk about ClearType Tuner or "disable font smoothing" as fix, then you've not identified the problem that affects those of us who want text to look pixel & color-identical to IE8, as those settings have no effect on sub-pixel positioning. There is no OS setting I'm aware of to control s-pp. Some other browsers have actually worse text quality than IE8 so if you're making comparisons of IE9 to other browsers you may not notice difference. This may explain why not everyone is noticing the issue (esp people who use other browsers as their primary browser and now test IE9).Anonymous
February 14, 2011
@zzz: AFAIK, all browsers on Windows use GDI for font rendering (the one used by IE8) with the exception of Safari 3 and Firefox 4. Deactivating sub-pixel positioning would have side effects for animation, integer positioning is obsolete and going to be phased out, you should get used to it.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
I need to add that even though the vs2008 vs vs2010 comparison "looks 1:1" it actually isn't, but the difference is much subtler than the IE9 vs IE8 issue.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
Björd: What effects exactly? I don't like to read moving/animating 8-14 size text anyway so if the priority of the team is to have better animated text rather than preserve readability then honestly I don't know what polite things I could say. VS2010 proved that the screen pixel aligned + accelerated rendering can be done on element basis, so there's nothing to prevent turning on the sub-pixel positioning for only elements that animate.Anonymous
February 14, 2011
I wish who ever put the tabs in the header part of the window would try using IE9 with Aero transparency turned on and a black desktop. The only tab that is readable is the active tab. Adding the row of tabs-only would have fixed the problem if it wasn't in the transparent header part of the window. I looked for an opacity setting for IE9 or some other way to make the tab row more readable, but couldn't find one. If the released version doesn't have some way to get around this condition, I guess I have only 3 choices: turn off transparency, revert to IE8, or give Chrome or other browser a try. Putting information that the user might want to actually read in the transparent part of the window seems like a giant step backward.Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Please, everybody who does not like font smoothing, add your vote: connect.microsoft.com/.../cannot-turn-of-font-smoothing-in-ie9-rcAnonymous
February 15, 2011
Tabs on top! PLEASE!Anonymous
February 15, 2011
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February 15, 2011
@BP: There is a way to turn of ClearType and go back to greyscale anti-aliasing. If you see colors around letters then you should try to calibrate your display.Anonymous
February 15, 2011
The Page-Enter and Page-Exit transitions don't seem to work in IE9. (they worked fine in previous versions 6,7,8) <meta http-equiv="Page-Enter" content="blendTrans(Duration=0.0)"> <meta http-equiv="Page-Exit" content="blendTrans(Duration=0.0)">Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Please read this: people.mozilla.com/.../ie9 Nice article about IE9 & HTML5 and how all these 'tests' MS brags about are not standard ones...Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Björn: OK, thanks for the info. I will take a look again on this as soon as I have Windows 7 SP1 on my hand.Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Even I, a firefox user since ff2.0, don't buy that bullcrap by "Paul Rouget". blogs.msdn.com/.../html5-site-ready-and-experimental.aspx so go troll in some other place. 'nuff said.Anonymous
February 15, 2011
hallo microsoft. im very sorry to report that doing the install of ie9 beta rc, it had problems installing. i then removed ie9 and reinstalled. after that ie9 litterely crashes on almost any site. this diddent happen that often on the previous version of ie9. any ways, im sad that im forced to move to google chrome now as this rc version is beond useless on my machine (asus eee 1215N) i hope u will fix this problem soon coz, i have always bin using ie and bin dissing the rivals. dont change that now ;)Anonymous
February 15, 2011
hallo. if this browser is gpu accelerated, then how come it uses more cpu according to task maniger than the old non gpu accelerated browser chrome? shuldent it be gpu only? otherwise i dont get it really. i thought the whole point to this idea was to offload the cpu. not just overload yet another pice of hardware? apart from that i have a requst if its posible. can u make IE9 switch inbetween gpu and cpu when needed? i relie hevenly on my battery and, since i went to IE9, my netbook turns my gpu on all the way resulting in poor batterylife when browsing light pages. fx youtube SD = cpu youtube HD = gpu. is that posible? if so, do it. thats how it shuld be done ;)Anonymous
February 15, 2011
oh yes now im already complaining. can u make some sort of restrictionon for glossy displays on netbooks as u did with rams and such? that wuld be imba :pAnonymous
February 15, 2011
> Unfortunately, the blue accelerator icon became inoperable after installing ie9rc. > Removed all accelerators and reinstalled some; all attempts were to no avail. Any hints? Finally deleted the user‘s entire HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionInternet SettingsActivities registry branch. -> problem was solved.Anonymous
February 15, 2011
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February 15, 2011
vorrei sapere perchè quando scarico la ie9rc mi vine scritto chè non può scaricarlo perchè avrei un ie piu nuovo' grazieAnonymous
February 15, 2011
I see others have the same problem as myself (on Windows 7 64 bit) as when they start up IE9 RC 64 bit it crashes after a few seconds. I had no problems with IE9 Beta 64 bit (latest version). IE9 RC 32 bit works fine though. social.answers.microsoft.com/.../16dbeddd-412d-400b-bef9-e0a7986b6dd2Anonymous
February 16, 2011
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February 16, 2011
So funny, are you planning to make a good browser instead of this *** ?Anonymous
February 16, 2011
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February 16, 2011
haha, is it pitiful enough to make you do a lot of cheats whith the table of standart compatability? :))) tro-lo-lo team :-)Anonymous
February 16, 2011
I was running IE9 Beta, a few minor issues on websites, but after installing IE9 RC, getting intermitent runtime errors. Example I can login into Facebook, but cannot do anything, otherwise, runtime error. Restore back to IE9 Beta. After searchuing the web, I am not alone.....running Windows 7 64Bit.Anonymous
February 16, 2011
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February 16, 2011
In an early preview build IE9 scored highest on the newly implemented W3C CSS test suite test.csswg.org/.../results Has this score been changed / improved in by this release candidate ?Anonymous
February 16, 2011
@ Raymond, I agree with you but the not on the XP part. XP may still be around and especially in the corporate environment but Microsoft needs to cut the cord its 10 years old. If they made it for XP they would have to support it for XP. Which has to fragment their resources when it comes to time. No different then making a website look good on 5 different browsers. The more systems its on the more support and time it takes I hope this is the start of a new shift for Microsoft and I hope they move quicker and stop supporting legacy platforms. But as a final note and an agreement with many people on this board. I work at big agency where we make a ton of interactive and web work. And our time/labor for all our projects on average is 36.7% more time/labor is used to address IE. And to think almost every agency has to have a similiar number. Its pretty unreal how much time and money IE has wasted. And there is no "feature" or desire to use the product. Because every other browser does the same job faster and more accurately.Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Will IE ever support APNG?Anonymous
February 17, 2011
IE9 RC does not remove all the files when doing Internet Options -> Delete ... -> Delete. I must manually go to Settings -> View Files -> select them in the "explorer" like interface and hit "Delete". Also, "Settings" -> "Check for new version of stored pages " set to "Every time I visit the webpage" does not re-download the page (and its CSS's, JS's, etc...) on each page access. Both of these features worked fine in IE8.Anonymous
February 17, 2011
I've now tried uninstalling the developer preview and the update for IE9 RC and then reinstalling IE9 RC, and I still get all of my tabs crashing when they try to load.Anonymous
February 17, 2011
it‘s very good！Anonymous
February 18, 2011
Sorry to say but I heard news that the browser will release come March 14, 2011 supposedly. If that's the case I feel bad for Microsoft. This is a half-baked attempt at rectifying their problems with internet explorer. Maybe you should pull the plug on XP but at the rate you are doing with your half done browser being half standard compliant Internet Explorer should vanish as well. Microsoft, you guys are losing market share by the moment. Doing incomplete work will neither benefit you OR your market share. MANY people have already dropped Internet Explorer and as of right now Chrome is rising and Firefox has taken a chunk of that market. What your product is right now will not give people any reason to use it or come back. If it was actually fully standards compliant I wouldn't even need to download firefox(for standards) and chrome for speed. Sure internet explorer is faster but not by much and relying on the graphics processor is sad as most average users probably don't have a good one. The browser should be fast based on the build itself. But more importantly you have to make the browser fully standards compliant. But I guess at this point I don't know why I still bother to give feedback. It's already the release candidate and supposedly you guys won't be doing more than one so it's probably not improving much if at all.Anonymous
February 18, 2011
@GreLI > When will I be able to report a bug without ONE MORE useless registration? I can't even see if the bug already reported. GreLI, I fully agree with you. I reported this fundamental issue months ago in this blog wrt bug reporting and I never was answered. IE beta feedback is the only bug tracking system (with Opera BTS) that requires registration just to view bug reports. No explanation why. No justification why. No comment none whatsoever. During the IE8 dev. process, anyone could see the bug reports. regards, Gérard TalbotAnonymous
February 18, 2011
Still no ability to change the location of "Home/Favorites/Tools"? There are other more suitable places for them, depending on the user, especially when a lot of their functions appear on the opposite side of the screen (pinned favorites and tools dialog), leading us all over the monitor to accomplish simple things. There could be an option to move it to the title bar area (either beside the windows buttons or on the other side, above the address bar) between the back/forward buttons and the address bar, or on it's own bar either on the left or right. Which brings me to another peeve - there's no ability to place things in the command bar where you'd like. All command bar items are always on the far left unless you enable the favorites toolbar, then it's always on the far right. "Unlocking" the toolbars really doesn't accomplish anything, but place useless grips on them. We need more customizability for simple items like this!! An option in the right click menu for large or small icons/buttons would also be highly appreciated. I was hoping by this time these things would have been addressed but now I'm a bit dissapointed.Anonymous
February 18, 2011
Great release, but when can we expect the same support for Web standards seen in WebKit and Firefox? As a reference, please have a look at this post: people.mozilla.com/.../ie9Anonymous
February 18, 2011
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February 19, 2011
Ad spell-checking (use the libraries from Live Mail?) and an option to disable Cleartype and IE9 beats other browsers hands down.Anonymous
February 19, 2011
arstechnica.com/.../mozillas-modern-browser-attack-on-ie-overlooks-firefox-shortcomings.arsAnonymous
February 20, 2011
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February 21, 2011
While waiting on IE9 RC to materialize, I switched to Chrome (had issues with IE 8 and IE 9 Beta on 2008 R2). I quickly became very dependent on the synchronization capabilities of Chrome (e.g. the ability to sync apps, autofill, bookmarks, extensions, preferences, and themes). I have a desktop PC at work as well as a laptop. I also have several computers at home (e.g. desktops, laptops, and netbooks). Having the ability to synchronize various browser settings across all these computers is great. Having said that, the IE 9 RC is really nice! I love the new look-and-feel. However, until I have the ability to synchronize browser settings like I have in Chrome, I just don't see myself switching back to IE. Thanks for a great product... I look forward to using it again sometime in the future once it gets some more advanced features.Anonymous
February 22, 2011
The Home/Favorites button all the way on the right side is a huge annoyance. They should be moved to the wasted and currently useless wasted titlebar space over the Back/forward and address bar.... this would also match MS Office 2007/2010 and Windows Live Essentials.Anonymous
February 22, 2011
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February 23, 2011
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February 23, 2011
Great work but lack of text-shadow makes me sad.Anonymous
February 23, 2011
Liars ROFL people.mozilla.com/.../ie9
