User Experiences – Listen, Learn, Refine

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02/15/2011

Your feedback is an essential part of how we refine the user experience for the final product.

The IE9 beta reached millions of users around the world (over 25 million downloads), and we received a lot of feedback – a total of over 17,000 pieces of feedback since the start of IE9. The extensive reach of the beta gives us the opportunity to learn how users really use the product. Your feedback and opt-in user instrumentation are used to better understand your experiences with IE9. By listening to your specific feedback, and learning more about how you use the features through instrumentation, we gain more insight into how users browse. With those inputs, we took action to improve the overall user experience, and you can see the results in the IE9 RC.

For example, one area that we heard a lot of feedback was to refine search queries from the One Box (the new address bar with built-in search). Users can type a search query in the One Box that navigates to a search result Web page. Typically, the search result Web page shows a large search box at the top and bottom of the page to refine the query. We heard during beta, that users wanted the ability to refine the query through the One Box, too. We learned that the user behavior of starting a task and refining the task are closely connected. This led to extending the One Box to retrieve the search query through selecting the search icon.

Applying your feedback to refine the experience

Listening is a key part of our design process, and your feedback is a critical piece in refining the experience.

We start the design process by defining the user goals. We use these goals to guide our thinking so that the focus is always on the user. During the design of a feature, we use the instrumentation and telemetry we have, and apply judgment to determine the specifics of a feature. Once the feature is implemented, we evaluate it through a series of user studies. The user studies help identify issues that may not have been found through our internal use of the product at Microsoft. Even with the thousands of internal users, this is too small of a sample size to be representative of our larger user base.

This is what makes the beta so important. The broad reach of the beta allows us to evaluate the design with real users on a massive and statistically relevant scale. We have a variety of channels for feedback - the Connect site, blog post comments, site visits, and unsolicited comments from friends and family. We went through each and every piece of feedback to understand the user intent and expectation. We then stepped back to see how the feedback aligns with the goals we set out for the IE9 release for site-centric browsing through Windows.

We also recognize the range of our user base – some users browse to a dozen different sites on a regular basis while more enthusiastic users browse to many sites in just one session.

We want to make the broadest impact possible for all of our users. Our approach is two-fold:

Invest in the areas where the default browsing experience is designed for everyone with sites at the center and
Extend browsing to enthusiasts while keeping the default experience focused for everyone.

Here are some of the changes we’ve made to the user experience for the RC release based on your feedback:

Frame

Less frame, more site content!

“Thank you for putting browser clutter in the background and letting the sites shine through.” – LovingIE9Beta

We are encouraged by the positive feedback on a site-centric frame that minimizes visual distraction from sites and significantly reduces the vertical space. The RC frame is now leaner with 5 more vertical pixels for the site content.

IE9 frame (un-minimized) is on the right with the 63 pixels of vertical space

IE9 frame (maximized) is on the right with 55 pixels of vertical space

With more vertical space for the site, you can see one more email item, tweet, or news headline.

A consistent way to extend the frame

The frame layout shows only the most essential controls for navigation, giving you even more space for the site. For enthusiasts that want more of the browser controls visible can extend it through the frame context menu. At beta we heard that finding the right context menu is tricky – sometimes you get the system context menu depending on where you invoked the menu. We’ve combined the system and frame context menu so that you can consistently access the menu you want.

“I can press Alt to get menu up, but if I wanted to keep it there I can't.” – acidtrance .

Now you can set the menu bar to always be visible.

One Box

Refine a search query

“Difficult to refine search terms, because search terms get replaced by the search page URL” - yasufs

When you search in the One Box, the last search query is available through the search icon on the right of the search box. This also works for the search keyboard shortcut, Ctrl-E.

One Box search icon

Search using specific keywords like “:”

“As a power user I need to use advanced search operators like 'site:' or 'filetype:' very often. With the new address bar this results in an error message” - persident

Previously the One Box treated text with the colon “:” as a protocol like “mailto:” and “tel:” which triggered navigation instead of search. From the beta we learned that enthusiasts rely on these search-specific keywords to narrow down their search results. In IE9 RC when we detect the colon we first check to see if there is a matching protocol, and if it is not found we treat is as a search query.

Directly navigate with copied text (Ctrl-Shift-L)

“I know I can paste and then hit enter, but to do 2 steps instead of 1 when I use it all the time is frustrating.” - larune

In the IE9 beta, we updated the keyboard shortcut Ctrl-L to set focus in the address bar to navigate quickly. We learned that enthusiasts want even more ways to efficiently navigate. We extended this keyboard shortcut to directly navigate with text on the clipboard - copy text or a URL anywhere on the system and use Ctrl-Shift-L to navigate/search directly without needing to set focus in the address bar.

Tab enhancements

Dedicated tab row

“I prefer the tabs to be in a separate row, and I agree it should be an option so each person can choose.” – Jeff Yates

“What others said: speed and UI is great, just need an option for advanced users to move tabs into separate row. Keep up the good work!” - Vilius

We’ve heard from many avid users who want the option for a larger address bar and more room for tabs. There is a new option for a dedicated row of tabs to maximize the room for the address bar and tabs if you need it. Tabs use the entirety of the horizontal space – edge-to-edge.

IE9 RC Frame with a dedicated tab row

Visible active tab

“when you have a couple of tabs open its hard to know which is the tab that is in focus or selected.” – LiquidBoy

When you have a lot of tabs, we heard that it was hard to find the active tab, especially when there are tab groups that use color to indicate a group. We’ve increased the contrast between the active and inactive tabs so that in a glance it is easy to find the active tab.

Close button on inactive tab

“I would like to be able to close any open tab by click on the "X" of that tab without bringing it to the foreground.” – osu940

The close button is available on an inactive tab so you no longer need to select a tab to close it. Alternatively, you can middle-click using your mouse on the tab to close it.

Pinned sites

Pin a site with Taskbar on the right or left

“my taskbar is actually docked at the left of the screen. when I want to pin a tab to the task bar, it does not recognize the task bar anymore.” – umhan

Pinned sites is a way to have your favorite sites at your fingertips through the Windows 7 Taskbar, simply by dragging the tab to the Taskbar. The most common configuration of the Taskbar is at the bottom. When a user drags a tab to either the left or the right, we treat this as Windows 7 Aero Snap to view tabs side-by-side. We realized that when the Taskbar is configured to the left or right, it was in conflict with Aero Snap. For RC, you can now pin sites to the Taskbar regardless of your Taskbar location. You can continue to use tab Aero Snap by redoing the snap motion (the first one motion is treated as pinning to the Taskbar, the second time it is treated as Aero Snap for a side-by-side view).

Taskbar located on the left, first drag tab motion is to pin the site

The second drag tab motion is to Aero Snap for a side-by-side view

Pin a site with InPrivate Browsing

“why not make it possible for the user to choose to make InPrivate the default browsing mode? I may want to be InPrivate all the time, for example.” - Paul

If there is a site that you prefer to browse using InPrivate Browsing (does not store history, cookies, temporary Internet files, or other data) like checking Web mail on a shared computer, you can now pin the InPrivate Browsing site to the taskbar.

Hotmail as a pinned site with InPrivate Browsing

Pin multiple sites

“Pin a group of favorites as a single pinned entry” – Andy Jacobs

I saved the best for last. We received lots of positive feedback on having sites on the Taskbar just like any other application. Users found this to be a faster way to launch their everyday sites. We also learned through feedback that enthusiasts often use a set of sites together – for example banking sites, shopping sites, entertainment sites, etc. With the IE RC you can now set multiple homepages to a pinned site (right-click on the site icon). Each time you launch the pinned site the related sites are also available.

Shopping sites – Adding Ebay to my Amazon pinned site

The dozen changes described in this post are a small subset of improvements we’ve made for the IE9 RC. Please give it a try. We couldn’t have made these changes without your thoughtful feedback.

Thanks to everyone who tried the IE9 beta and took the time to share their thoughts. You helped us design a better product for everyone who uses IE9.

—Jane Kim, Lead Program Manager, Internet Explorer User Experience

Comments

Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Dedicated tab row doesn't work in FullScreen mode I filed a bug on connect here connect.microsoft.com/.../ie9-rc-doesnt-honor-the-show-tabs-on-a-seperate-row-setting-in-fullscreen-mode Also why haven't the modal dialogs like the 'Save Webpage' dialog been removed . They completly lock up the browser
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February 15, 2011
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Cannot edit my comment .so I will post my thank you for here Keep up the good work
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
While we're on the "feedback" topic...did you listen to people complaining about font rendering? The RC text rendering is better than the Beta one, but the GDI text still looks better =/
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Good to see IE team back in the game. I had been using Google Chrome for the past few months due to the simplicity of the user interface. Since the RC I am 100% on IE to see how it goes. So far I am really liking it. A couple of things I miss. I had the define plugin for chrome where I could double click on any word and get the definition for it, on IE it is 3 of 4 steps away. When you download anything on IE8 it shows a popup, with IE9 it shows a bar at the bottom which I tend to miss. I have to look around to see why it did not popup to see a bar at the bottom. Chrome also shows a bar but it's a dedicated bar at the bottom with subtle animation vs. a white bar appearing on IE9 that blends with the page.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Please add page title on the window title bar (option) and bring back the information and buttons in the status bar (it is hidden by default already). Oh and you know... the text rendering...
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Everythink looks great, the UI is very nice. But the favorites bar doesn't fit in the new aero look. It looks like IE7... You should integrate it better in the new design, then its perfect :)
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Everythink looks great, the UI is very nice. But the favorites bar doesn't fit in the new aero look. It looks like IE7... You should integrate it better in the new design, then its perfect :)
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February 15, 2011
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Check spelling... please... come on, Live Mail have it, Chrome have it, Firefox have it, Opera have it. What are you waiting for? Also I really want an option to pin tabs so they can use less space.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Would you mind to comment on the close tab behaviour comparing IE and Chrome, I personally perfer Chrome which allows you to close a series of tabs, while on IE users needs to relocate for the close button.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
When did you receive feedback for squared tabs? Beta tabs were 1.000x better.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Pinned Tabs would be great, or at least minimized tabs that only show the favicon, to save a little space. Also, an option to swap the pinned site / Aero snap order, so motion one is Aero snap, motion two is pinned site.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Tabs appearance. IE9 RC looks gorgeous with tabs disabled. Yes, tabs need to be workable on their own row, but the tabs feel alien to the rest of the design, like they were bolted on and don't properly integrate with the look and feel. A few people seem to have echoed my thoughts on it else where on the web. Being a web developer while I'd love to see the history API, CSS Transitions and an automatic update mechanism for the engine, I am stunned at just how much IE has come along. You've done some fantastic work there. I just hope the final IE9 looks slick even with the tabs enabled.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Good decisions, but you're keeping ignoring other feedbacks. It's not only a matter of UI. PS: today I'm using FF, in reality. I need it to do some things for my blog, which I can't do with IE in the same manner.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Your images are outdated, Firefox 4 b11, which is available already, puts tabs in the toolbar, so would use less vertical space than IE9, while also allowing more visible tabs.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
1 - I really hate how the Refresh and Stop buttons look when place to the left of the OneBox, it looks awful in the OneBox with no separator and it's too small. 2 - I really wish I could remove the Home and Favorites buttons, since I don't use them and would add more space for tabs, even on my 16:9 monitor, though I run IE9 and Chrome at 1600 width. BTW, I think the Favorites Bar should be redesign to blend in a little better to the IE9 look. 3 - Pinning sites video the Tools button only has an option for the Start menu. I do not pin sites to the Start menu but the taskbar. 4 - The Find Bar (CTRL+F) should open like the Downloads bar, why have a long bar across the browser window? 5 - What's the deal with IE9 not having a spell checker? I think Microsoft should ditch the "User feedback bull" 'cause you obviously don't listen to feedback and just go with telemetry. I downloaded the IE9 beta and RC, and IE9 is shaping to be great, modem browser, but I just don't see me going back to IE, at least not in the near future. Chrome might have its shortcomings (and believe me, it has then!), but I just don't know. While I do honesty think IE9 is a great browser, there's something about it that I don't like, and up until last year I was using IE8. Of course, that doesn't mean that I'll never go back to IE (I used to think I would never use another browser), but right now I'm just used to Chrome.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
The new IE is very good under the hood, but after these ui tweaks i still miss some: -No automatic browsing session loading. Maybe a checkbox in the option who wants this. To reach the current you must open a new tab and click on the "Reopen last session" link. -New tab should be opened right next to the current tab. Or at least should be an option. -Blank title bar is somehow ugly. I would prefer that the addressbar/tab bar go there at least when the browser is maximized. -The Back button is cut down by the frame. Its looks very unprofessional. -Search for and install addons/extensions in the Manage add-ons window like in Visual Studio 2010. -I would love to see a sync service where i can sync favorites/tracking protection settings/browsing history/etc. across multiple machines and when the Windows Phone 7 update go live with my phone too. I hope the IE team will at least think about these. And i have to say that regardless of these i love the new IE(and most of the changes like the One Bar) and a big congratulation goes to the whole team.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Been using Chrome for while now, tried it IE9 Beta but had to go back to Chrome. Came back to IE9 RC, trying it out for few days, big improvements over beta, now the problem is Gmail on IE9 RC, for more info please check the link below. Also I feel the text rendering is little below when compare to Chrome. IE9 RC + Gmail + DISQUS social.answers.microsoft.com/.../9614b3b3-9ff7-4b42-ad3b-604f4793645b Also Gmail HTML5 upload feature doesn't work.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Sometimes the tab changes colors, which is cool but when the color is dark, and the font is black, its hard to read. May be its an UX issue?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Now you have to redesign the favorites bar, you can trim some pixels off the top and bottom of the bar, and try and make it less ugly. maybe make it the aero style background instead of the default color, or make a gradient or something... just make it not so ugly and tall
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Please, everybody who does not like font smoothing, add your vote: connect.microsoft.com/.../cannot-turn-of-font-smoothing-in-ie9-rc
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
You cannot compare frame height for one browser with a tab band of its own and for the other browser (IE9) without a tab band of its own.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
FYI, using the IE9 RC and Outlook Web Access (Exchange 2007), dragging and dropping an email into a folder no longer works. This has worked previously with past IE9 builds (in the IE9 beta, for example). Is this a known issue or something that will be fixed before IE9 goes final?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
My complaints:

Font rendering is often awful. Please fix that;
Printing and print preview don’t work properly;
Reload button is badly placed, icon is small, easy to miss;
Plugins icon placement is nor fully thought through. For example when I want Lastpass button, I have to enable whole command bar! Do the boasting about vertical pixel becomes ridiculous. Why can’t we place icons where Home, Favourites and Tools are?
Memory usage on some sites;
Iexplore.exe refuses sometimes to exit in Task Manager when IE9 is closed. Note that all unnecessary add-ons are disabled and all active ones are updated;
Copy-paste formatted text does not work; pasted text format is messed up. This is known issue;
Modern browser needs a speller. I know that MS response in connect.microsoft.com is that omission of speller is by design. Please reconsider your position. Webapps are becoming THE apps nowadays. On the positive side I have to admit, that IE9 is FIRST usable browser from Microsoft. It is visually nice, standard compliant and fast. After years of Firefox use I am going to switch, hope that RTM is not far away and all bugs get fixed. Well done!

Anonymous
February 15, 2011
xer21: you can be sure that the favorites bar goes away in the future. Why do you think was it made to look that ugly if not for this?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Almost forgot: Gmail DOES NOT work properly with IE9!
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Hello, With the "Onebar" May i recommend like if a user types @Twitter it redirects the user to the webpage of that twitter account. Plus Why is the back button cut off a little(This bugs me the most)
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
I would like to see a feature to open a link into a link-pool (a separate special tab) instead into a tab, in a link-pool the page would load and it would generate a thumbnail and then unload (to save resources); In that way, I would be able to browse trough pages in the link-pool and when I click on a particular page, the page would open into a new tab (this time for real browsing) and it would be removed from the link-pool (the thumbnail). Many times I open a few dozen sites to read, and some of them I read only hours or days later... and all that time they are sitting in an open tab eating up resources, I think this problem could be solved with a solution I just described. Also if you put the tabs in a separate row, the "refresh" button is way too far from the main control buttons (back, forward) especially on a 1920x1080 display. Also the option to put the tabs over the address bar would be nice and it could save a little extra pixels too when use it from a maximized window as you could use the empty title bar space for the tabs (BTW the empty title bar is great, I hope it will stay empty for the RTM as well.) Other than that... IE9 is really a great browser.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
W? guys I'm using Chrome development build, and no space available in title bar... just 60px img257.imageshack.us/.../chromei.png I'd like to see IE9 with 0px wasted in title bar.. I mean, just 35px of vertical space... img827.imageshack.us/.../sinttulo1gur.png
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
"Directly navigate with copied text (Ctrl-Shift-L)" mm would bve cool to have a context menu option for that
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@uhmmm, others: I blogged about IE9's sub-pixel fonts in blogs.msdn.com/.../sub-pixel-fonts-in-ie9.aspx It is important to tune ClearType to ensure the best possible rendering of sub-pixel fonts. That's also described in the above post.
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February 15, 2011
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February 15, 2011
@Ted Johnson - we've blogged, commented and tweeted about ClearType's failures since it was added to Windows. The issues users have with ClearType have existed before IE9 and they are no better now. Please don't tell us to "tune" our ClearType when we've "Clearly" discovered that it doesn't work. Telling me that "garbage" isn't garbage - that I just have to "tune" it is an insult to our intellect and your end users. We DO NOT WANT CLEARTYPE (today, or EVER!) Please turn it OFF BY DEFAULT!
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Ted Johnson [MSFT]: My ClearType setting are default Windows 7 settings on 20"LCD at 1680x1050 pixels, standard 96 DPI. There is no need to run ClearType Tuner or change anything in the OS, my fonts are excellent. Except of IE9 which is really terrible. I had to uninstall it because my eyer were hurting. IE8 has correct ClearType rendering. IE9 is a mess. Firefox 4 is the same fiasco, but at least you can disable HW acceleration and font are again nice sharp. I asume Microsoft will not fix it so i will switch to FF4 when released..
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Hi IE9 Team! Just would like you to know, that Mozilla is making a case that IE9 is not really HTML5 Compliant: people.mozilla.com/.../ie9 They are citing that caniuse.com and html5test.com (beta) scores for IE9 is lower than Firefox 4. Don't get me wrong, I like IE9, but they make a strong case regarding Standards Compliance. Keep on improving! Don't relax after you release IE9. Work on IE9.1 ASAP, and solve the "As Designed" bugs on Microsoft Connect that you rush-marked. (Found via www.reddit.com/.../is_ie9_a_modern_browser )
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Hi IE9 Team! Just would like you to know, that Mozilla is making a case that IE9 is not really HTML5 Compliant: people.mozilla.com/.../ie9 They are citing that caniuse.com and html5test.com (beta) scores for IE9 is lower than Firefox 4. Don't get me wrong, I like IE9, but they make a strong case regarding Standards Compliance. Keep on improving! Don't relax after you release IE9. Work on IE9.1 ASAP, and solve the "As Designed" bugs on Microsoft Connect that you rush-marked. (Found via www.reddit.com/.../is_ie9_a_modern_browser )
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Not only do Paul's thoughts on IE9 ring true, but browsers like the "beta" one on the yet-to-be-released PlayBook score better on HTML5 tests than IE9 RC. Last I checked basic stuff like innerHTML still didn't work in IE9 - so don't even start talking about HTML5 in IE.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@uhmm: can you provide a screenshot that shows the difference between text display in IE9 and other text display in ClearType on your system? I cannot see any difference.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@ks: Here you go i55.tinypic.com/2cgy105.jpg
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
I second Raan's comment. The transparent inactive tabs are hard to read when placed over a dark background. There is a reason why the Aero window captions have the white glow around them...
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
As for text rendering, sometimes I really don't understand you, MS. The Visual Studio/WPF team too great efforts to rewrite text rendering to reduce bluryness of small fonts, yet here comes IE9 with exactly the same problem. You guys need to talk to each other more.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@theonhacker html5test.com is a joke. It gives only 20 point for support the Canvas 2D context spec which is big and complex but at the same time it gives 20 points to a single html5 element, the device element. An element has been discontinued by w3c HTML5. It is not likely to return before may when the W3C HTML specs should be feature complete. It also gives points for webgl which has nothing to do with HTML5. Mayby a future HTML6 might contain a Canvas 3D spec. And caniuse.com is also weird as it represents presents itself as a sort of full listing of supported webstandard specs but actually it is a carefully handpicked selected set of the specs. If you look at the CSS3 listing on that site it is limited to parts that are mostly still drafts and none of which IE9 supports. So according to caniuse.com IE9 does not support any CSS3. But for instance a long existing candidate recommendation ruby spec that FF does not support is not ion the site. Caniuse does not list any CSS2 spec elements (it has an empty CSS2 category). Weird because in last years W3C conformance test IE9 scores the highest of all browsers on CSS 2.1 support.The caniuse site list several draft future webapps Javascript API's that IE9 does not support but does not list support for the currect javascript itself. Strange as IE9 is the number one in for instance the Sputnik javascript conformance test (a test from Google) where Firefox has fails on triple the amount of tests that IE9 does. And that is current CSS and javascript that is used in the real world today where Firefox is behind in suppoert on IE9. The caniuse sites selective and obviously biased picking of supported specs is shocking. That Mozilla calls a biased site like caniuse.com a reference for developers is laughable. I would almost think they are behind it.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Maximised Chrome vs IE9, for the sake of 5 pixels, having the tabs and address bar separate is gold...
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
I agree with the comment that the CTRL+F for search on page is not evident enough for normal users. I would suggest adding a "search on page" to the rightclick contextual menu.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
This "Pin multiple sites" only open the sites. Imagine I want a pin desktop icon "MSDN blogs", this "Pin multiple sites" would open 20 sites (or more?) sites. Why I can't pin e.g. the IE Blog and add the silverlight blog to the same entry. Like the "pinned sites" in the IE Icon contextmenu.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Please fix or advise on the ITBar7Position setting to put the Menu bar on top again. This was asked by 2 people in the RC announcement thread and has gone unanswered.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Aethec: While I prefer the default ClearType setting and not the one you've got, the DW rendered text is clearly superior in terms of character spacing and kerning (look at "odio" in Verdana and Arial)
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Jane Kim [MSFT]: The option to pin a site to the taskbar should be in the menu (Tools). That would only take two clicks, while your suggestion requires keyboard and mouse actions.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
I like most of the changes, but I don't like your approach to the tabs. Chrome has a better model in which the address bar and buttons "belong" to the current tab. You're also wasting space by not putting tabs above the address bar. They feel like an afterthought.
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February 15, 2011
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Also, put the page title back in the title bar. The blank space at the top of the browser just looks stupid. I hated that when Windows Explorer started doing it and now I hate it more with IE. If windows are piled on top of windows, there's no way to see, at a glance, which page holds what (active) website. I understand you want a "clean" look, but why not give users the option to add it back?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
The page title on the title bar would be nice, surely it would be an extremely easy change to make? It could even be an option, if theres some weird reason for not having it there that makes you want to keep it blank.
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February 15, 2011
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Juan Carlos Ruiz Pacheco It's already on the context menu. Copy some text, then right-click on the webpage, then choose "Search using copied text".
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
I'm having Java crashes in the RC. Anyone else affected with this?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
But what is the point in removing getting rid of Feed/WebSlice discovery notification. Why not do something like highlight (glow) the Tools button, and in that directly list the discovered feeds?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Ted Johnson: I've read the sub-pixel positioning post you mentioned the day after it's published. Still until now, I don't understand why you didn't notice and realize how blurry the IE9 font rendering (the left boxes) in the images you posted. And yet, you kept putting an argument that it's a ClearType setting issue. As just confirmed by Aethec in the link here: http://i.imgur.com/CWnu2.png, I confirm I see the same thing as well. I don't honestly understand what is going on here. As to my understanding, ClearType in GDI is actually different than ClearType in DirectWrite. Thus, text rendered with GDI + its own ClearType looks more crisp than one rendered with DirectWrite + its own ClearType. Am I right? Will someone who trully understand this issue bring an enlightment here? Thanks.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Aethec: Are you using Windows 7 SP1?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Will IE9 be stable in March? i hope so!
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February 15, 2011
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011

Less frame, more site content! I want to be able to (optionally) move the back/forward/addressbar/home/fav/tools IN the "empty title bar" space. PLEASE!
Dedicated tab row For enthuasists who need to work with 30/40+ tabs, please give us the option of "Multirow tab bar"
Close button on inactive tab I appreciate you listening to user feedback. But please keep in mind that some features can be desired by some while creating problems for others. This is one of them. Please give us the option to turn it off. Thank you for listening to our feedback. If you listen to these as well and give us the option, you will only gain more applause and lose nothing :) Another thing about a lot of tabs: When you have a lot of tabs opened, the taskbar icon preview becomes kinda useless. Since you have tab grouping in IE9, why not display the previews in groups (may be by using menu or an icon for each group -> click to view all tabs under that group). would be cool to have :D

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February 15, 2011
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
I've updated my list of features intentionally or unintentionally removed due to careless and option-less user interface changes. See http://bit.ly/escAc9.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Ted Johnson - The problem is that text in IE9 looks different from other apps. Text in other apps looks great. Talk to the Visual Studio 2010 team, they fixed the problem!
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Here is how the WPF/VS10 team fixed the text rendering problem: blogs.msdn.com/.../additional-wpf-text-clarity-improvements.aspx
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Ted Johnson your comment insults our intelligence. I guess this is OK. I've been insulting the IE team's intelligence since I started using the beta because of the font rendering. I guess We're even. P.S. Posting from Firefox. Is anyone else unable to post comments on this particular blog with IE9 RC?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
I'm a former MSFT, now company founder of a top 300 internet site. IE9's lack of History API support makes it very difficult to move forward with truly rich applications on the web. I think we can all agree that IE9 customers would appreciate their back buttons working more frequently and on more sites. In the best case, sites try to provide hackish #! resource URL path emulation. This is a poor substitute for the History API, which enables better management of the location bar and history stack. How long will users have to wait before IE9 is patched to support for this and other important features mentioned on caniuse.com?
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February 15, 2011
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February 15, 2011
I seem to have similar (identical to the eye) rendering in IE9 and other W7 applications. Cleartype is in its default setting (a fairly fresh install of W7) on a laptop. No significant blurring on normal sized text. So I concur with pmbAustin that the complaining people should provide more information (examples, syste info) on their problem with font rendering.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Esben: The blog post you linked just discusses how they just went made their GDI-style rendering mode more like GDI when dealing with light-on-dark text, but GDI-style rendering is not an option for IE9 as it would come with certain disadvantages for web designers.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
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Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Please, if you're working with pre-release versions of browsers, use the newsest ones. Firefox 4 only uses 61 pixels when maxed, and has done so for a few weeks now.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
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February 15, 2011
Zkal@ You should go to eye doctor. Because your screenshot is exactly what i am talking about. Broken font rendering in IE9. I can assure you that everybody suffers from this issue and it has alsolutelly NOTHING to do with ClearType settings in Windows. Also i am NOT the only one affected by this. IE9 simply renders fonts the wrong way and what is really sad, that Microsoft employees do not see this problem. Somebody that incompetent should be imediatelly fired. And here are my adtiotional screenshots IE9 RC versus IE8 - If somebody tells me that he/she sees no difference, i give up. You are lost forever and IE9 will be failure. oi55.tinypic.com/35i6bsy.jpg oi55.tinypic.com/2rr1b1v.jpg oi56.tinypic.com/2mcsivk.jpg
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Well, apart from the others I've made in a comment for the previous post about feedback, I've forgotten a criticism, related to images. In many cases, I need to copy only the link related to the image shown, not the image itself. In Firefox, I can do this by pressing on "Copy Image Location". In IE, I must pass through Properties and then copying the address from the "Address (URL)" field. A simple menu item like the one in FF described before would be better and easier than the current behavior.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Arrrrgh. For the love of all that is holy. You cannot take screenshots of Cleartype. It's device dependent, so the end result of a screenshot won't look right (or even the same) if viewed on different displays. You can post all the pictures you like, but nobody else is seeing what you are seeing so there's no point, it proves nothing either way. The best things to do if you see blurry text are:

Run the Cleartype tuner. Even if applications not using sub-pixel text positioning look ok, the tuner can dramatically improve the look of sub-pixel positioned fonts (like in IE9) and will probably benefit other applications slightly too.
Make sure you have the DPI settings correct for your display, especially to the people complaining the IE chrome elements are too small because that's a sure fire sign you have your DPI set wrong. Setting the DPI correctly can massively improve text display.

Anonymous
February 15, 2011
With the monitorsizes of today, the 10px difference at the top doesn't really maater. But what matters is the support of HTML/CSS standards, what do you think about this post: people.mozilla.com/.../ie9 ?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
AndyC@ You simply dont get it... Do you? IE9 font rendering has NOTHING to do with ClearType settings. I have HP w2007v monitor, 20", 16:10, resolution 1680x1050 pixels. Windows 7 fonts are excellent. ClearType is great technology and fonts are the same in the OS and also in IE8, but not in IE9. There in no need to tweak ClearType settings or mess with the DPI, which i have set to default 96dpi. There is simply no way how to get the same fonts appearance in IE9 like are fonts in IE8 or IE7 or Firefox 3.6. Difference on those pictures between IE9 versus IE8 must be visible on any LCD display. Are you all BLIND?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@Ted Johnson: like several others I did of course try to get a better text display with ClearType tuning but it did not work out for me like for others as well. People with good eye sight do see the blurry unsharp text and it troubles their eyes. I really cannot understand why you force font smoothing on everybody. What is the problem to add an option to disable font smoothing?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@uhmmm: Did you bother even checking the screen? Just compare the article preview text between my screenshot and your screenshot. Very much different. If you mean that the popup menu fonts are bad, they've been bad for me even with IE8 so that proves nothing. I do not see the issue in my computer which is clearly visible on your screenshots. Calling me blind because I actually have properly working computer with proper monitor shows how mature you are.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
Hey Microsoft, in the RC, there seems to be no "Website" property sheet in the properties of a pinned website to change its URL? Will it return in RTM? How can we change the icon of a pinned website if it doesn't have a favicon?
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@ uhmmm " Are you all BLIND?" No we are not. But our visual perception of the fonts is likely different than yours. This can be because your hardware displays things different than ours which is a likely cause. Or it can be that you have a real different visual perception from us.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
The problem with telling people to adjust cleartype is that there are people, like myself, that do not want it turned on at all (if this is actually even a cleartype issue) - Which may be why others that have had cleartype enabled from the start don't really notice the font issue. Though this recent bug in connect seems to show that MS was able to reproduce the issue connect.microsoft.com/.../cleartype-is-always-used-even-when-disabled-in-ie-options-and-window-7. It would just be nice to have someone from [MSFT] let us know what is really going on with this. This is a big issue, even though there are some that would have you think otherwise.
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February 15, 2011
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February 15, 2011
@uhmmm: I do get it. But I can't compare, because both those screenshots of yours look utterly illegible to me, the IE8 one marginally worse if anything. This is because I'm using a different display, so I can't see what you see when you look at them. Which was my whole point. And yes, when IE9 is rendering in non-compatability mode it uses sub-pixel positioning, rather than trying to force text onto pixels. This absolutely will look worse if you have your display set up wrong or have not tuned Cleartype (which is how Windows determines the correct sub-pixel arrangement). if you have things configured correctly for your hardware (and to a degree, your visual perception), it will look clearer and more readable however.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
AndyC@ i am glad that somebody finally agrees that IE9 renders fonts differently, but this new style is IMO worst than IE8. It is heavier to read, my eyes are hurting and adjusting ClearType is no help i my case. It break consistancy within desktop where entire OS has different fonts than web browser. I do not understand how it can look clearer and more readable. Default ClearType fonts across entire desktop and in IE8 are much better readable.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@uhmmm: Actually DirectWrite rendering is the more correct one, ie. how the font designer envisioned it: blogs.msdn.com/.../sub-pixel-fonts-in-ie9.aspx You should also compare old GDI rendering to the one in Adobe products and OS X.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
I think a keybaord shortcut to activate and deactivat the "show tabs on separate row" option would be very useful as it would be faster.
Anonymous
February 15, 2011
@uhmmm I just noticed several of your examples are with IE9 not showing the compatibility mode button. Thus being pages already shown in compatibility or quirks mode. As IE9 subpixel positioning is only used in standards mode webpages the subpixel positioning should be the cause of what you are viewing. On compatibility mode pages IE9 should only be using Cleartype rendering blogs.msdn.com/.../sub-pixel-fonts-in-ie9.aspx
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
@Jane Kim [MSFT]: "we currently don't have auto-lad your last session, and one tip that i found helpful is to set the home page to about:tabs which has a link to get the my last session. You can also get the behavior of opening the tab to the right of the active tab by turning off tab groups (internet options > tab browsing settings) " Thanks for the tip, but its a workaround and not a solution. And while the "Directly navigate with copied text" gained a lot more love, i don't understand why this(session management) left out from the browser?
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Higher ClearType contrast make IE9 fonts slightly better, but it's still not so good like IE8. I am not sure if i would accustom to that, my eyes are hurting..
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
I believe that you should have the address bar be a 'child' of the tab. It makes design sense that the address be owned by the tab (website). Chrome has it right on this. IE9 is fast but the address bar and tabs, I would have liked to been done differently. I have tried both IE9 tab locations, but I wish that you offered a third. I am a Microsoft fan and supporter, my career is based on Microsoft technologies...please consider moving the address bar to be a child of the tab similar to Chrome and the upcoming Firefox.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
You've improved IE9 a lot but if you move the addressbar + tabs to title bar (kind of like fullscreen with disabled autohide) and move the dedicated tab row to top of addressbar (not below it), it would remove half of IE's realstate for frame. Currently (as so many users mentioned) title bar is empty in maximized state. At least introduce an option for us to do it. Thank you for the wonderful browser. I hope we get regular updates after the release.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Also the ability to pin websites to "new tab" page would be great ;)
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
@Zkal: >>> If you mean that the popup menu fonts are bad, they've been bad for me even with IE8 so that proves nothing. Good point. You've already mentioned that it's BAD yourself, it's just you don't seem to be bothered at all by its badness. Personally, it's BAD for me as well AND I'm BOTHERED. Why am I bothered? I won't be bothered if this blurriness wouldn't cause eyestrain (fatique) to my eyes after using IE9. Unfortunately, it does. And eyestrain is a PAIN. And it's just doesn't make any sense anymore when I feel PAINFUL just because reading text in IE9. Do you think it's necessary to get a painful experience after using IE9, especially reading this blurry text? Shouldn't reading text in IE9 be a painless experience? Now, where's the FUN?
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
dont we allready have that option for the menu bar in ie7/8?
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
chrome space minimization is a useless metric to optimize for.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
IE team and IE fanboys are so delusional. Nobody mentions the wasted space that IE offers on the top that other browsers don't. Also people.mozilla.com/.../ie9_vs_fx4.png
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Oh and why not get the latest FF4 beta in your screenshots vs using a latest IE9 and a older version of FF4 beta. You will see FF4 has tabs right on the top now, like opera image. Likewise how about putting tabs on a separate row to make it a fair comparison since otherwise IE9 is neither giving a full tab space nor a full address bar. But then IE team will argue majority of the users don't have more than 4-5 tabs, then they should also realize majority of these users also don't care about the difference in 55px and 61px or even 80px. It's really sad to see an "engineering" blog for IE coming down to what marketing people do.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
to make a fair comparison FF4 must move the tabs outside of the title bar for pixel counts also nobody mentions the wasted GPU cycles or memory leaks FF offers ... herp a derp a derp
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
I like internet explorer 9 rc however i'm finding it slow when going into websites and it crashes and freezes plus i'm not liking the new tabs feature and would prefer a better design! I'm also finding it very annoying that some websites require that you use compatabilitie view and would recommend a change to this as to where every website works and is compatable and beileve that if this can be done then internet explore 9 will be truly be amazing. Another suggestion is that I.E 9 offers and saves all passwords thus making ease of access into websites without having to remember your passwords yourself.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
I didn't realize Windows 7 had gotten rid of the menu bar. Glad I'm still using XP. I suppose I will keep doing so until Microsoft brings it back. Even Mac has a menu bar. Its an annoying one menu bar always on top and controlled by whatever application you have open (I hate that). But at least they have one. Windows 7 has no menu bar? Why not just turn your computer into a brick? No thanks. Windows 8 better have a menu bar.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
How odd that there are so many comments suddenly about font rendering. For the people who find this an issue, why was this only noticed now with the RC, I don't remember comments about this for the Beta. IE team, I wonder if you could explain whether something changed from Beta to RC that could have caused this reaction? I like the font rendering, but I know some people genuinely have issues with (most or even all) font smoothing. I do agree with the comments that most people don't know how to "Adjust ClearType text" and would not think to look for that option if they don't like the font smoothing.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
@Soum Great idea, that's a very elegant solution and something I would love too.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
The font issue has been going on ever since the first beta releases and platform previews. It's nothing new. There are tons of bugs already reported on the issue from months and months ago in connect with multiple people reporting the same problem (with little to no comments from the developers). I think most people like me, were hoping that this had been fixed in the RC, but it has not.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Thanks for Paste & Go option from KEYBOARD, lets add it to Context menu on Address Bar :)
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
@Joe Font issue is only misleading title, since there is no Font issue if you actually played with "Clear Type settings" from your control panel of Windows to match real perfection depending on your monitor. Since most users use it by "default", fonts might look like they are buggy...
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
I wish the dedicated tab row is above, but that would be a problem on Tablet PC's. I really wish in the future IE9 could have an option for that or could detect if the PC it's running on can do touch.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
What I mean by "above" is the dedicated tab row to be at the title bar.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Oracle/Java have released version 6 update 24, which no longer crashes (my) Internet Explorer 9 RC www.java.com/.../manual.jsp www.java.com/.../installed.jsp
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Sigh...Not to be rude, but how many times does it need to be said that adjusting cleartype is not the answer. I have cleartype turned off. I don't intend to turn it on. I have tried adjusting it for kicks, and it still did not help the issue. Text in every single other application is fine - except IE9. Cleartype off is perfect for my screen and my eyes. If all other applications (including other hardware accelerated browsers), can render proper looking text according to my current settings, then obviously it's an IE9 problem. It's easy to say there's "no issue" when you think you don't experience it, but there are plenty of others that are experiencing it, and there definitely IS an issue.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
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Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Great changes, congrats to the IE team! Now if only add-ons would be supported in Pinned Sites mode (Ed Bott also raised this point)! While all other browser beef up add-on capabilities, IE completely disables them under Pinned Sites. Please, at least provide an option to turn on add-ons for a specific pinned site (like multiple home pages can be set).
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
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Anonymous
February 16, 2011
@uhmmm Your 'font issue' examples showed IE9 rendering without compatibility button and thus already in compatibility or in quirks mode. Those page are not rendered using the new hardware based IE9 subpixel rendering but are rendered in accordance with the IE8 or IE7 engine. So it is getting more unclear what you are complaining about as it seems unrelated to the newly introduced IE9 font rendering
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
@Maximilian Haru Raditya. If you had read, you would have noticed that it has been issue with me even with IE8. Not sure what NeoWin does but those popup menus have always had bad fonts that have irritated my eyes. Otherwise I see no blurriness effect that people claim IE9 has compared to IE8. Can I say there is no issue? No of course not, there are issues. As someone earlier said, it's just totally dependent on how computer is configured. Will some people still see blurry fonts even after they change settings? Probably. Hopefully MS can work and make the fonts work for everyone.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
Can we get confirmation please from the IE Team that "ClearType" will be turned off in IE9 RTM by default (OR) that it will be massively improved so that those that turned it on in Windows (e.g. keep their user setting please!) get the same quality experience they do in all other applications they use. I agree with all commenters above that the rendering in IE9 is horrendous (worse than IE8) and that it is not a matter of "tuning" it.
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
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Anonymous
February 16, 2011
The "Less frame, more site content" isn't true for me on my laptop. When running the browsers maximized on the 1440 x 900 screen, I see Google Chrome taking something like 61 pixels at the top, but IE9 RC taking I believe 69 pixels?
Anonymous
February 16, 2011
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Anonymous
February 17, 2011
connect.microsoft.com/.../option-to-show-hide-compatibility-view-button
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
Of course IE is going to take up less vertical space if you hide the tab bar and compare it to browsers that don't or that put it on its own row so they're actually big enough to be usable.
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
border radius is not working in fieldset with legend. IE9 rendered a square border. Other browsers render an rouded border on fieldset ok. If microsoft claims that they implement css3 border radius it need to work with all elements, including an fieldset with an legend. Some sites will render beauty on other browsers but will render ugly in IE9 because of this failure. Please fix this until RTM.
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
are we having clear-type-trolls?
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
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Anonymous
February 17, 2011
Inline spell check please. ...and F3 should go to the next result when searching within a page. Thx!
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
F3 doesn't work :@@@@@
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
border radius is not working in fieldset with legend. IE9 rendered a square border. Other browsers render an rouded border on fieldset ok. If microsoft claims that they implement css3 border radius it need to work with all elements, including an fieldset with an legend. Some sites will render beauty on other browsers but will render ugly in IE9 because of this failure. Please fix this until RTM.
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
@Gabriel Kent "RETURN" goes to next result of find
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
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Anonymous
February 17, 2011
"Of course IE is going to take up less vertical space if you hide the tab bar and compare it to browsers that don't" Who cares about this vertical space thing anyway? Someone who is still using 800x600 for their resolution? Why is THIS something to brag about Microsoft?
Anonymous
February 17, 2011
I really like the new Bing toolbar, especially the Facebook integration. However, the toolbar doesn't appear when I open a Web page from the taskbar. Is this a problem with the Bing toolbar or IE9 in general?
Anonymous
February 18, 2011
@jum - anyone on a netbook screen cares does anyone else find the contrast between current and other tabs actually seems less obvious in RC? that and the hair trigger on closing unactive tabs is what I;d like changed the most - and next being a clearer UX for tracking protection.
Anonymous
February 18, 2011
View>Toolbars>Menu bar is only visible/accessible if the Menu bar is enabled! There is no equivalent option in the Toolbars context menu as there is in IE8. DAF users will still be confused and post questions like "Where is the menu bar"? Are the two command bar "Manage Addons" buttons to be retained as an Easter Egg?
Anonymous
February 18, 2011
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Anonymous
February 18, 2011
If you guys really listen to our feedback then why on earth did you not listen to us when we requested simple things like an inline spellchecker and password manager? Must we waitanother year for IE10 to remedy this?
Anonymous
February 19, 2011
I have an issue with Feeds. When I go to Feeds for the first time after opening IE9, then the mouse stutters and I can't move it for a few seconds, then it seems to smooth out. Perhaps this is related to Windows Live Mesh? I use Windows Live Mesh to sync favorites, and this might be causing the problem...just a guess. Is anyone else having this problem? Also, the UI is still a little slower than other browsers (opening tabs is much improved over ie8, but in some cases there is still a noticable lag. I was hoping it would be immediate.) Otherwise, I am loving it! Keep up the good work!
Anonymous
February 19, 2011
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Anonymous
February 19, 2011
If you really listening to the users and the Connect feedback.

Please let the users choose to have the home, favorites and settings button on the left side. It is really painful to move the mouse from the left to right everytime I need to open my extensive list of favorites (I'm using screens from 1680 to 1920 pixel).
Please remove the inconsistent jump of the favorites center from right to left when pinned.
Please bring back the look of the tabs from the Beta version. The new tab look&feel does not match of the rest of the browser. Thank you.

Anonymous
February 19, 2011
IE team work and sleep and in sleep they thing experince in firefox and thing and fell that they found in IE but actually they can not tell really true about their dream because everything they have from MS. well why they talking about real experience who never found in IE even in Firefox and in chrome because they give him money. so everyone thing for their family first otherwise who not know IE. why we talking today we talk later when IE come with their RTM maybe something they add in better way. i am not telling wrong but when you use both product day and night.
Anonymous
February 19, 2011
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Anonymous
February 19, 2011
Regarding the design of the tabs: I think you should make the active tab more stand out by making it 1-3 pixels taller (higher) than the other tabs. The tab control from the common controls (comctl32) always gave the active tab more emphasis by making it a bit taller than the non-active tabs. While I like the new tab design in the RC in general (and prefer it over the beta design), it feels a bit unnatural for me that the active tab just has a different color than the other tabs, but the dimensions are the same.
Anonymous
February 19, 2011
Text with font "DejaVu Sans Mono" is not displayed (empty space). "DejaVu Sans´" works. SVG Implementation failure: upload.wikimedia.org/.../SVG-Grundelemente.svg
Anonymous
February 19, 2011
I've menioned the text rendering issues as compared to IE8 before so for a different question this time: Can I pin a FOLDER OF FAVORITES to TASK BAR, so that when I click one ICON on the TASKBAR, it opens ALL THE FAVORITES IN THAT FOLDER? It seems to me this "multiple home pages" + pin to task bar is NON-SENSE, if it doesn't allow several sets of sites to be pinned to be opened from single click! Since I'm not only interested in Shopping, I'm also interested in Other Things, and each of the other things involve 20+ tabs which need to open with one click. However I may not be interested in Shopping or Other Thing #3 on a particular day so I do not want to open those tabs that day. I hope it came Loud and Clear what I'm asking about.
Anonymous
February 19, 2011
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Anonymous
February 20, 2011
I don't think I was quite 100% clear about the Pinned Tabs: I must have : 1st Pinned Taskbar Icon which Opens tabs related to Subject #1 2nd Pinned Taskbar Icon which Opens tabs related to Subject #2 etc
Anonymous
February 20, 2011
Most of it is nice, but the x to close inactive tabs is quite frustrating! If you want to close an inactive tab, just middle-click it, it's easy! But now I keep accidentally closing tabs instead of switching to them. Remember doing it 3 times in the first hour after installing the RC. Now I still do it once or twice per day, and slows me down a little when I try to avoid it, needing to make sure I don't click the right end of a tab, which is just where I'm inclined to click if my mouse was to the right of it previously...
Anonymous
February 20, 2011
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Anonymous
February 20, 2011
AndyC: That's the theory. In practise you can't take and reproduce the correct look where the output devices really are different, however with the examples of IE9 and WPF rendering floating around, the point is that if you zoom the example up, you would see just what the person complaining is seeing without zooming it up. When CT works the user can just see some black sharp text, when it fails, user starts to see what sub colors it is made off (assuming good vision, otherwise it just looks fuzzy, off-color). So when there's example of bad rendering, zoom it up, then in your mind zoom it back down and you'll see how bad it looks. Possibly similar test: Take screenshot of IE8 and IE9 rendering at same font size, zoom it say 5x and then walk away until it looks like 1x. Does IE9 look as good or better in majority of cases as IE8? If the source shot was done with currently mass market displays at standard settings the result should reflect that IE9 will in few cases look better but in many cases look worse than IE8 and yet many more cases look broken. With this test you are only comparing what is being rendered & how eyes perceive it and not the display technology.
Anonymous
February 20, 2011
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Anonymous
February 20, 2011
Google Chrome solved the problem of winning space for 100%.. And now IE9 is trying to get credits for winning an additional 10 pixels. Thats not innovation, but trying to optimize the hard work of another company!
Anonymous
February 21, 2011
The inactive tab is harder to read now, unless i do mouse hover active tab is not so stand out from other tab password manager is a must !
Anonymous
February 21, 2011
I like the option to put tabs on separate rows, so I can fit them more, but why is not possible to put the Links bar next to the address bar. I do not need long address bar, so I could put my links bar where tabs are default, and put tabs on separate row. That way, I will not loose my links and will save space, because no aditional rows will be displayed. Now if I want links and tabs to be visible, I have to show both of them on separate rows. Hopefuly you understand what is my point and if its not too late, please implement this. Except that, IE9 is simply great, I was allways using IE and will continue. Good work !!! PS: if somebody required the same thing before me, I do apologise, but I was too lazy to read all comments.
Anonymous
February 21, 2011
By Links bar I mean Favorites bar, I didn't notice it was renamed
Anonymous
February 21, 2011
IE9 seems to have a connection problem ! sometimes some images on facebook are not loaded and i have to press the refresh button or press Enter on the address bar to load them .... i don't have this issue with firefox .... as an example of bad text rendering, i can't count the number of Ls here: llllll because the letters are kindof blended with each other ... here is a screenshot: [IMG]i52.tinypic.com/15mg58z.png[/IMG] i don't have this problem in microsoft word or other programs . . . tinypic itself seems to have a problem with IE9RC ! : [IMG]i56.tinypic.com/2gvuiid.png[/IMG]
Anonymous
February 21, 2011
I love the new look - makes it alot easier to navigate around the layout....The tabs are key to this working well! Make them colour coded. http://www.vitaloximeters.com
Anonymous
February 22, 2011
using my mouse wheel i can't smoothly scroll this page: en.wikipedia.org/.../Antioxidant i don't have this issue with firefox 3.6 . . . .
Anonymous
February 23, 2011
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February 24, 2011
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Anonymous
February 25, 2011
In reponse to my own observation dated "17 Feb 2011 7:40 AM" above, where I wrote "The "Less frame, more site content" isn't true for me on my laptop" I have found out why that was so: That user was set to have a screen zoom of 125 % in the Control Panel (KontrolpanelUdseende og personlige indstillingerSkærm). Why that makes a difference between IE9 and Google Chrome I cannot figure out, however!
Anonymous
February 26, 2011
hi i Can't highlight/select text here: www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/admissions please fix it ... Love IE9 :X

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