Planning Permissions with Group-based SharePoint Sites... when you're used to Regular SharePoint Permissions
Note
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Basic Idea
When you're a Site Owner of a SharePoint Site Collection, you should ask yourself - Is this SharePoint site collection associated with a modern Office 365 Group?
If it is associated with a Group, the permission model you're used to is going to be different. You can easily confuse users and expose content in a way they don't want to if you try and apply and manipulate traditional SharePoint permissions in a Group site.
A Cautionary Tale: As Site Owner, you may want to discourage other Owners of the Group Site not to use the traditional Designer/Contributor/Reader SharePoint Levels. This can lead to a support nightmare.
The Story So Far
As a SharePoint Site Owner, you should already be familiar with these permissions concepts:
This has been the model for On-Premises SharePoint Site Collections for some time.
Where things are different with Office 365 Group-generated SharePoint Sites
It's hard not to spawn a SharePoint Site Collection when using the new Modern Office 365 tools like Teams, Planner, and Outlook. Make a new Team, and you get a Site Collection. Membership, by default, is synced across these tools.
Here's the breakdown
Traditional SharePoint Site | Site Spawned from O365 Group | Shared with Teams, Planner, Outlook, etc |
---|---|---|
Owners | Owners | No |
Members | Members | Yes |
Designers | n/a | No |
Contributors | n/a | No |
Visitors | n/a | No |
Custom level | n/a | No |
It is still possible to create a Modern SharePoint Site that isn't part of a group, and in that case you get the usual permission levels.
Best Practices
- If you're adding users to a traditional SharePoint site, add them using the Gear Icon and Site Permissions link.
- If you're adding users to a Group-spawned SharePoint Site Collection - who need to participate in Teams, Planner, Outlook - add them with the Members link in the SharePoint Group Site, or add them in Teams, Planner, or Outlook.
- Don't add them in both places.
- Remember: In an Office 365 Group, a Member added to the associated Team, Planner, or Outlook instance is a Member in the SharePoint site. The benefits of tool integration only works if your access is the same across the suite
- A Visitor really isn't a thing with a Group-spawned SharePoint Site - unless you add them into the SharePoint-generated 'Visitor' group via the Site Permissions link.
- A Member in a Group-spawned Site SharePoint has considerable power. That mission critical document library with beautifully crafted Views and Workflow? Someone adding Planner Tasks can easily delete this library.
Terminology
Product names overlap a little, so here are some stories describing common scenarios:
My team needed to collaborate, so I signed into Teams and made a Team. That also generated a Group SharePoint site, and a Planner Board! When I add a user to the Team, they have access all over.
I had to add some read-only users to my legacy SharePoint Online Site. I went to Site Permissions and added them to the existing Microsoft Entra Visitors Group. I didn't see a link that said 'Members' on the screen.
My boss told me to own our group's Planner board, so my IT department made me an Owner of this Office 365 Group! I can now add users to a SharePoint Group Site! And delete Planner Boards.
Further Reading
- Groups in Microsoft 365 and Azure, and Which is Right for You
- SharePoint Maven on O365 Groups vs SP Site 'Groups'
- SharePoint Maven on Connecting a SP Site to an O365 Group
Principal author: Patrick M Doran
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