Windows 11 build ver is still 10.0.22000.194

Pavel yannara Mirochnitchenko 12,611 MVP

I have installed the official version (not preview) after 5.10.2021 release and the build number is still 10.0.22000.194. We need to start dividing Win10 vs. Win11 devices in Intune and Configuration Manager. How we should do that, because probably Windows 10 build will also grow in a future and to what then?

Anoop C Nair MVP Enterprise Mobility 21 Reputation points MVP

2022-03-02T17:53:31.4+00:00

@Pavel yannara Mirochnitchenko - I did receive a similar comment on one of the posts on Windows 10 versions.

My point of view/hypothesis was this. I could be totally wrong :-D

Why should it be changed? The major version is still the same as Windows 11 and most of the previous versions of Windows because it's all built on the same base core OS ... Microsoft is adding new or additional code on top of the previous versions to make a new version. Hence the major version is not changed.

I don't think it will ever change until they reach some other limitation. Or Microsoft will need to build a new OS ground up.
Pavel yannara Mirochnitchenko 12,611 Reputation points MVP

2022-03-08T09:13:55.54+00:00

@Anoop C Nair MVP Enterprise Mobility ok thanks, so basically based on os ver we can understand, that Windows 11 is based on Windows 10 and Windows 8.1 was build on Windows 7, right?
Jason Sandys 31,311 Reputation points Microsoft Employee

2022-03-08T14:25:35.03+00:00

All Windows versions in current use were built on top of each other so making this statement has no meaning or value. You're attempting to find meaning in something that has zero impact. As long as you know that anything greater than 10.0.22000 is Win 11, why does it matter? This is a design choice we made no different than any design choice we've made.
Schmitt 5 Reputation points

2023-08-13T12:51:05.8633333+00:00

Especially for more novice users, the numbering convention matters because it's confusing to see an OsOperatingSystemSKU say 10... but system settings "about" info to say Windows 11. A new owner/novice could interpret that as having purchased from a dishonest vendor.

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Lu Dai-MSFT 28,416 Reputation points

2021-10-12T07:33:09.09+00:00

@Pavel yannara Mirochnitchenko Thanks for posting in our Q&A.

For this issue, I have consulted with windows team. Windows 10 will continue to support at least one release of Windows 10 Semi-Annual Channel until October 14, 2025. So, the OS build of windows 10 will not increase unlimited.

Based on my understanding, windows 10 OS build number will not up to 22000. At least for now, OS build number 22000 is the standard that distinguishes Windows 10 from Windows 11.

Thanks for understanding.

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Jason Sandys 31,311 Reputation points Microsoft Employee

2021-10-12T14:56:29.19+00:00

This is correct. Anything above 10.0.22000.0 is Win 11. Anything below is Win 10.

Lu Dai-MSFT 28,416 Reputation points

2021-10-14T07:50:21.017+00:00

@Pavel yannara Mirochnitchenko Did the information I provided is helpful to you? If it is helpful, please accept the answer, it will make someone else who has the similar confusion easily find the answer.

Thanks for your kindness in advance.

triendl.kj 11 Reputation points

2021-12-20T15:45:27.35+00:00

It is so unfortunate that an OS used by billions can't provide a standard API to query a simple display name/caption for the product itself.

Since years vendors and authors for tools that want to display or log OS information have to hunt down myriads of ways. The build number isn't enough, simply because it isn't future proof! If I create a condition on build number>=22000 my tool would still display/log "Windows 11" even if it's already Windows 12 or whatever it will be called in its next major version.

Then there's all the license flavors - Home, Pro and whatnot.

Developers would need to at least know how either

... winver.exe determines the resource id being used when loading from C:\Windows\Branding\Basebrd\basebrd.dll

... or get-wmiobject win32_operatingsystem | select Caption tinkers together the caption.

Jonathan Mills 0 Reputation points

2023-02-07T14:13:46.9933333+00:00

I think many understand your technical logic, but it does not answer the base question. Windows 10 and 11 are different in many ways to the majority of users. It also contains far greater limitations on hardware support. Within Win 10 update there is direct mention of testing for Win 11. It seems clear that for the majority, it should be shown as a different product; important for software that itself now differentiates. In essence you should work to user needs and requests, rather than to expect your clients to work to yours.
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Eric Salomé, FR 6 Reputation points

2021-11-20T08:57:26.887+00:00

Awkward enought, but we will do with that "for now" (until a 11.nnnnn build is provided).

In the mean time, many "Microsoft applications" will show "wrong results" when displaying the current Windows version.

For example,
account.microsoft.com : What's your device using Windows ?
Nom ASUSeric
Édition OS Windows 10 Home
Version 2009
Version du système d’exploitation 10.0.22000.318

Hint: I suggest to the Microsoft team that when they will be in the process of "adding" "Windows 11" version "everywhere", they also prodive "condition / case statement" for displaying "version 12" as well (for future use ;-)).

Best regards. Eric
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abbodi86 3,896 Reputation points

2023-03-03T03:59:49.8733333+00:00

It's called Compatibility
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Rahul Jindal [MVP] 10,196 Reputation points MVP

2021-10-12T07:31:25.057+00:00

There is no saying on how build numbers will be handled going forward. But for now you should be able to differentiate between 10 & 11 using OS caption device property.
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Dave Burton 6 Reputation points

2022-02-12T14:21:44.963+00:00

What is an "OS caption device property" and how does one check it from a .bat file?
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Limitless Technology 39,686 Reputation points

2021-10-13T08:26:05.003+00:00

Hi there,

Windows 10 build will not increase unlimitedly. we cannot say about the nature of OS build but usually, when a new version of Windows is released the older version OS will not increase. You can compare this with Windows 7 & Windows 10.

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Pavel yannara Mirochnitchenko 12,611 Reputation points MVP

2021-10-14T10:03:28.837+00:00

Hehee.....
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Lu Dai-MSFT 28,416 Reputation points

2021-10-15T01:00:11.297+00:00

@Pavel yannara Mirochnitchenko Honestly, I haven't seen the windows 10 devices with OS build 10.0.22000.194. Could you please login one of the devices and double check the OS version in the client?

Jason Sandys 31,311 Reputation points Microsoft Employee

2021-10-15T01:02:40.887+00:00

What's this second screenshot from? This looks like indexes from an OS WIM. If so, yes, this is a known issue where the indexes are still named Win 10. This doesn't accurately reflect that the OS is actually Win 11.
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